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08-27-2009, 04:11 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Again this was in fun,cause I don't know you.
One of the guys from the emergent church movement ,wearing jeans and a tucked shirt with a soul patch.
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Well, I'm probably not "Emergent" 'cause my shirt is never tucked in. Jeans? Absolutely! Soul Patch? Not my kinda thing. I'm not crazy about haircuts, though! So If I'm gonna associate myself with a "style", then I would mention these churches only because they're known....Northpoint, NewSpring, Willow Creek, Mosaic, Gateway Community, Lifechurch, Granger Community, etc.
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08-27-2009, 04:51 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
That story about a relative of LS reminded me of a funny story Bishop1 told on here or NFCF. He told how that one time at a UPC Gen Conf he saw his sister on the street and she ignored him because she didn't want anybody to know they were related!!! LOL!!!!
I miss Bishop1's stories and rich knowledge of UPC history and people.
Regarding Joe Parker I am wishing him and Jean the best and praying for wisdom in them deciding their future. I so rarely think it is the right thing to start another church in the same town you just left one. I hope he will consider blessing some other location with his considerable talents as a pastor and preacher of the Gospel.
In fact, now that I think about it, it is clear it is the will of God for Joe and Jean to move to Murfreesboro, TN and start a church here!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Last edited by CC1; 08-27-2009 at 05:29 PM.
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08-27-2009, 06:11 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by CC1
Regarding Joe Parker I am wishing him and Jean the best and praying for wisdom in them deciding their future. I so rarely think it is the right thing to start another church in the same town you just left one. I hope he will consider blessing some other location with his considerable talents as a pastor and preacher of the Gospel.
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They don't have to stay in the same town to remain in the Treasure Valley. The area is very seriously lacking good churches to choose from.
Unless you're Mormon, then you're good. Oh, but then you don't get to pick your church either, unless you buy your house in a specific neighborhood just for the church. lol
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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08-27-2009, 06:55 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
They don't have to stay in the same town to remain in the Treasure Valley. The area is very seriously lacking good churches to choose from.
Unless you're Mormon, then you're good. Oh, but then you don't get to pick your church either, unless you buy your house in a specific neighborhood just for the church. lol
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According to their website their "Praise Meetings" are in Nampa. Since my geographic knowledge of Idaho is zero I don't know how far that is from their previous pastorate.
Edjumacate me about the "Treasure Valley". I am curious.
Someone may have already posted it but if not here is a link to Joe and Jean Parker's website -
http://joeandjeanparker.com/
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-27-2009, 06:56 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
They don't have to stay in the same town to remain in the Treasure Valley. The area is very seriously lacking good churches to choose from.
Unless you're Mormon, then you're good. Oh, but then you don't get to pick your church either, unless you buy your house in a specific neighborhood just for the church. lol
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I miss Idaho, but it is a very hard place Spiritually to grow a healthy church
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08-27-2009, 06:59 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by CC1
According to their website their "Praise Meetings" are in Nampa. Since my geographic knowledge of Idaho is zero I don't know how far that is from their previous pastorate.
Edjumacate me about the "Treasure Valley". I am curious.
Someone may have already posted it but if not here is a link to Joe and Jean Parker's website -
http://joeandjeanparker.com/ |
I imagine less than 10 miles.
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08-27-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by CC1
According to their website their "Praise Meetings" are in Nampa. Since my geographic knowledge of Idaho is zero I don't know how far that is from their previous pastorate.
Edjumacate me about the "Treasure Valley". I am curious.
Someone may have already posted it but if not here is a link to Joe and Jean Parker's website -
http://joeandjeanparker.com/ |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Valley
Nampa and Caldwell border each other, but there's a distinct divide between the two towns. Nampa is known as the rougher of the two towns.
80 people. Wow. They're likely the 3rd largest Apostolic church in the entire Treasure Valley.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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08-27-2009, 07:11 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Run O
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Originally Posted by Cookin-with-Stoneking
Two Reasons
Joe Parker is regarded well on here, he has people who know and love him.
The reasons why he left are known to a few, I haven't given them, though I suspect my information is correct. That being, the reasons he left are far to common in Pentecost/Charismatic Circles. That is troubling to me.
No harm is meant to the Parkers.
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Why then did you not start a generic thread with no names that addresses the reason he is leaving the church he pastors instead of using real names and places?
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08-27-2009, 07:12 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
I imagine less than 10 miles.
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Looking at the map and seeing where they are, they're probably 15 to 20 miles from Valley Church right now.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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08-27-2009, 07:14 PM
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Re: I Heard through the Grapevine~Joe Parker Out~
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
Looking at the map and seeing where they are, they're probably 15 to 20 miles from Valley Church right now.
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Good. That is far enough to justify being in the same area as the church he left.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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