No, I didn't say that, however, there are lots of moms and dads who don't raise their children right yet that doesn't get as much discussion as homos raising children does, right?
With divorce happening to about half of all marriages, there are lots of children affected. Children are torn from one parent to the next, and the parents tear the children apart to get to the other parent. The children end up in counseling or needing it and never getting it, and they end up being hateful individuals as adults without knowing what a proper bonding relationship is all about.
And I didn't say that NONE of them flaunt it, but the ones who do are the ones that also have multiple partners. For most gays who live in a monogamous relationship, there is no flaunting. There is no need to do so.
That's not the point here. There are snails without shells too. It's just irrelevant. BTW, divorce rate is not 1/2 of marriages, that's a faulty oft-quoted statistic, and many of those divorces are people with multiple divorces, pushing the rate higher. Either way, so what's your point? We're screwed up here so let's just get screwed up more? The "white flag" theory?
Homoesexuality is the most flaunted "lifestyle choice" today.
I can tolerate liberal-minded Christian friends, but on this issue, there's not an inch. Do some research on this, outside of your local newspaper and tv stations. I challenge you. There's a forum in Berkely (just Berkely of all places) that had an intense debate. Check it out. From a Christian worldview, from a sociological, psychological and common sense perspective, it's not good for America to point to that as anything above an "alternative lifestyle," which they'd love to be promoted to "equally good."
Are we now having a full-out same-sex marriage debate? That may explain your defensiveness on this thread against a show that glorifies same-sex marriage.
No, I am not defending same-sex marriage. And I've already said that I don't watch gays protrayed on TV, so I'm left to wonder, are you reading my posts thoroughly?
If anyone is confused by my posts, read them again. I believe I'm being quite plain.
I think, then, most on this thread are confused by your posts.
You're defending the rights for same-sex partners to marry and raise children (per your plain posts above). You're being defensive against the commentary that's not supportive of the TV show Modern Family, pointing to failures of heterosexual marriages as a logical position.
Maybe I have you all wrong. If so, you'll need to clarify.
That's not the point here. There are snails without shells too. It's just irrelevant. BTW, divorce rate is not 1/2 of marriages, that's a faulty oft-quoted statistic, and many of those divorces are people with multiple divorces, pushing the rate higher. Either way, so what's your point? We're screwed up here so let's just get screwed up more? The "white flag" theory?
Homoesexuality is the most flaunted "lifestyle choice" today.
I can tolerate liberal-minded Christian friends, but on this issue, there's not an inch. Do some research on this, outside of your local newspaper and tv stations. I challenge you. There's a forum in Berkely (just Berkely of all places) that had an intense debate. Check it out. From a Christian worldview, from a sociological, psychological and common sense perspective, it's not good for America to point to that as anything above an "alternative lifestyle," which they'd love to be promoted to "equally good."
Are we now having a full-out same-sex marriage debate? That may explain your defensiveness on this thread against a show that glorifies same-sex marriage.
I don't believe this thread is about same-sex marriages, but it's referencing a show that also has a gay couple raising children, correct? THAT'S the only issue I've been referring to. That show isn't about glorifying same-sex marriage, at least, that's not how I read it in the first post.
To me, their lifestyle doesn't reflect what kind of parents they make, even though I'm against their lifestyle. I'm against a lot of lifestyles that people lead, but if they are good parents, well, I think that's a good thing.
And again (I believe this is the fourth time, and I'll put it in bold, large letters), I DON'T WANT SHOWS THAT PORTRAY GAY PEOPLE!!!
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I don't believe this thread is about same-sex marriages, but it's referencing a show that also has a gay couple raising children, correct? THAT'S the only issue I've been referring to. That show isn't about glorifying same-sex marriage, at least, that's not how I read it in the first post.
To me, their lifestyle doesn't reflect what kind of parents they make, even though I'm against their lifestyle. I'm against a lot of lifestyles that people lead, but if they are good parents, well, I think that's a good thing.
And again (I believe this is the fourth time, and I'll put it in bold, large letters), I DON'T WANT SHOWS THAT PORTRAY GAY PEOPLE!!!
So... you don't watch shows with gay people, you aren't for same-sex marriage, but you don't think they should be pre-judged as parents? Is that correct? Same-sex partners can be healthy parents?
Are you not considering the implications of your ideas? Saying our model is no longer a child with a father and mother is devastating. Two daddies is a strike automatically, no matter how loving they are within their own family, the harm to all families by distorting the family model and pushing the envelope of acceptance is sickening.
And don't you think for a second the show isn't pushing same-sex marriage! Let's not be naive. Don't forget the #1 debate the last couples years, and one that won't back down: same-sex marriage laws.
I think, then, most on this thread are confused by your posts.
You're defending the rights for same-sex partners to marry and raise children (per your plain posts above). You're being defensive against the commentary that's not supportive of the TV show Modern Family, pointing to failures of heterosexual marriages as a logical position.
Maybe I have you all wrong. If so, you'll need to clarify.
Read my first post on this thread where I stated that I also have a problem with people who aren't gay but cannot raise their children as they should. Whatever your sexual orientation is, it's not what makes one a good parent.
Would I watch this show with gay parents? No. It's just not something I'm interested in. But to have 'shock and awe' because gay people are raising children in a loving home and providing their needs??? Well, I don't see anything wrong with that...to clarify, I don't see anything wrong with gay people raising children properly even though I have a problem with their lifestyle.
You and your wife are each responsible for raising your children, whether you do it together or do it alone. Regardless, doing it one way or the other doesn't make you a better parent or a worse one, does it? Being married to a woman doesn't make you a better dad. If you were to leave her and marry a man (or just live with one, whatever), does that somehow change the kind of parent you are now?
Not trying to gross anyone out, but trying to put it into perspective.
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Read my first post on this thread where I stated that I also have a problem with people who aren't gay but cannot raise their children as they should. Whatever your sexual orientation is, it's not what makes one a good parent.
Would I watch this show with gay parents? No. It's just not something I'm interested in. But to have 'shock and awe' because gay people are raising children in a loving home and providing their needs??? Well, I don't see anything wrong with that...to clarify, I don't see anything wrong with gay people raising children properly even though I have a problem with their lifestyle.
You and your wife are each responsible for raising your children, whether you do it together or do it alone. Regardless, doing it one way or the other doesn't make you a better parent or a worse one, does it? Being married to a woman doesn't make you a better dad. If you were to leave her and marry a man (or just live with one, whatever), does that somehow change the kind of parent you are now?
Not trying to gross anyone out, but trying to put it into perspective.
Okay, so now your tune changes again.
You are a child of God and see nothing wrong with same-sex couples raising children? Nothing at all sounds abnormal about that? That sounds normal? God's design? Something to shoot for is it?
Your logic is "since some heteros are losers, sexual roles mean nothing in child-raising."
If I left my wife for another man??? Yes, that would DEFINITELY change the type of parent I am!! Perhaps that's not the analogy you wanted... what is a family to you? What is God's idea of a family? Are a child's needs fully met with two daddies? Two mommies? Sure, because of sin we have single mom's trying to meet needs too. But why use some shortcomings with one instance, as an excuse to sponsor perversion!
What is our world coming to. And you are Apostolic I take it?
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