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Originally Posted by Aquila
I have the feeling that most of us would be two squeemish to be loving Christians in the culture of ancient Rome. It's not for us to control the world. It's for us to live for God as individuals in a fallen world. This isn't something to fight, nor is it something we can successfully fight. The best way to deal with this is personally live our values and teach them to our children. If we feel this strongly about it, we should avoid this kind of programming as much as possible and raise our children according to our values.
As for "parenting". I know a gay engineer who is divorced and has custody of his kids. His wife is strung out on drugs. He is a very involved father. To see him with his kids is enlightening. Sometimes I feel he gives them far more time, attention, and even spiritual instruction (he's a devout Episcopal) than I do my kids. Frankly, his parenting skills challenge me. We've prayed together, read the Bible together, and I've even been on a short spiritual retreat with him for an afternoon (that's a story for another day lol, trust me). He's a good guy. He's not an abusive monster. Now, we can disagree with his personal life choices all day long, but as a person, I'd never say anything to hurt him. My Apostolic church didn't offer me a bit of help when my mother died. Jim paid for my out of town hotel expenses when mom died. When I thanked him and told him he didn't have to... he said, "Hey, that's what Christians do." While we can take issue with some things about him... in some ways he's more Christian than many of us.
I'd like to know... do we take such a serious position against parents who raise their kids in homes where the man and woman aren't married?
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Do you agree the show is disgusting or not? That's what this thread was about. Not about how unloving or unspiritual the rest of us aren't because we didn't attend a retreat with a "gay Christian." Americans are made up of many worldviews, one of them Christians. You opinion does count. Jerusalem wasn't a democracy. It was a place of persecution. We are blessed.
Your views seem identical to Heavenlys. It's compartmentalized parenting instead of holistic. We run into people like that your friend often -- they convict us. I had a Buddhist friend that was like that. It's amazing. I just find it irrelevant frankly. Culture is all about a fight. You want to lay down and let it go, but the other side is ravenous and eager to gain promotion into society as not just "alternative" but normal. Love yes. Have no backbone and no clarity about right/wrong? No.
Yes, ultimately we deal with it. But we don't have to right now. And we certainly don't have sit here debating a thread that is talking about how perverse a show with a same-sex couple is.
Unmarried couples? I think that's a tragedy. Let's just shoot straight on this one though: it's an age-old problem inside an acceptable design. This shouldn't open the doors for same-sex parenting. Poor logic, Aquila. Because A=B, therefore C=B.
Same-sex parents can be good people, who can provide for their children the basic needs. However, they fall miserably short in areas of modeling behaviors.
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