But, you know, at least yisraelm is somewhat consistent. He does look a little different than current culture. At least he's not proclaiming that "we must be separate" and "we must look different than the world" while he looks no different at all, only his wife and daughters do.
Scott, I can’t help but chuckle as I read your post guised in righteous indignation regarding a response you received from an elder who disagrees with your approach.
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This is what you are not getting... Many, if not most, agree with your tenets but will never on to your agenda to target and divide.
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Statements like this, coming from your keyboard:
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Well it seems the word is out...
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Politicians in every level in our org are aware... some are thrilled, some are mad.
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What I want to ask these politicians.
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For those who have a problem with the Declaration... it is much watered down to the affirmation.
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If a person does not believe they can sign the declaration, how in God's name do you sign the affirmation.
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Why in the world, under Gods Blue Sky would one want to be in the UPC if the do not believe the Manual, do not truly affirm and are unwilling to declare?
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(I don't care if you don't sign it... that is really immaterial to me.)
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If you don't believe in those salient points, why would you want to be a member of the organization that represents and defines those points.
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Our declaration is causing a stir because some have been asleep at the wheel while others have taken control through influence because a lack of leadership.
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Our leaders need not be quite on issues that are in our manual. For us to stand up and declare.... we really believe our manual... and for people to be mad demonstrates a real deficit in our org.”
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… shows disrespect, arrogance and contempt for the elected and Spirit-filled leadership in the organization you quixotically champion to preserve and protect... Also, the delusion that clouds your mind that somehow the agenda you propose is in full alignment with the Holiness article of the United Pentecostal Church is a blatant falsehood being perpetrated with menacing guile... Many of things are proposing are items not in the manual, and you know it... Also, your pledge to not contend to the disunity of the brethren over a view such as the New Birth and issues settled..legitimately, such as TV, ..is the issue..
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As is the pattern in these campaigns, you are falling into the trap of victimization and as the WPFers did, will soon claim to be a martyr of the establishment... As Brother Long has expressed to you already, you are writing your organizational epitaph, and it’s sad to see... You’re clueless to the disunity you are brewing as a politician seeking to exert personal influence over your peers.
Lastly, did you get the consent of the signers of your declarations to change and edit what they originally agreed to attach their names to?
But, you know, at least yisraelm is somewhat consistent. He does look a little different than current culture. At least he's not proclaiming that "we must be separate" and "we must look different than the world" while he looks no different at all, only his wife and daughters do.
Yeah, but what was "old paths" (old school) in the 20's?
Just keep rolling the clock back a few decades. That should work. It does seem, though, that they've been stuck in the fifties for a long time. Come on, Yis, what do you say? Isn't it about time to move on to the sixties?
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