10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New GS

Paul Harvey · #1 09-30-2009, 08:13 AM

There is significant speculation and internal chatter that the GS will not garner the 2/3 vote necessary to continue at the helm.

With the formation of the newest PAC "We Declare", some believe that they may have the wherewithal to form a voting bloc, even in it's nascent phase, and may very well have marching orders from some in positions of influence to vote a certain way.

Will the mothership be going to the Mooney?
Or will she settle in Bernardville?

Stay tuned to updates on the business meetings here:
http://www.unitedpentecostal.net/gc2009/news.asp

TJJJ · #2 09-30-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Harvey

There is significant speculation and internal chatter that the GS will not garner the 2/3 vote necessary to continue at the helm.

With the formation of the newest PAC "We Declare", some believe that they may have the wherewithal to form a voting bloc, even in it's nascent phase, and may very well have marching orders from some in positions of influence to vote a certain way.

Will the mothership be going to the Mooney?
Or will she settle in Bernardville?

Stay tuned to updates on the business meetings here:
http://www.unitedpentecostal.net/gc2009/news.asp

Ah, come on Paul....

Alls that happens at the vatican is that the name of the pope changes!

It is still catholicism!

Although I will admit that haney seems to have taken the u pay cash to the left fairly quick! Old urshan seemed to have the nack to hold the cons and the libs together but KH was a polorizing personality that helped drive the factions apaart with his apparent unconcern with other opinions!

Paul Harvey · #3 09-30-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

Ah, come on Paul....

Alls that happens at the vatican is that the name of the pope changes!

It is still catholicism!

Although I will admit that haney seems to have taken the u pay cash to the left fairly quick! Old urshan seemed to have the nack to hold the cons and the libs together but KH was a polorizing personality that helped drive the factions apaart with his apparent unconcern with other opinions!

TJJJ, are you saying that if you had to characterize the Haney tenure in one word it would be "APATHETIC"? How so? Instances?

He did not seem apathetic about the "message" in his message last year to the Conference entitled "Upon this Rock".

He seems pretty anchored in the message being the "only thing that really matters" and what "separates of from the rest of the religious world" in this special invitation to the first night of conference.

http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=qpt4347a

Light · #4 09-30-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Harvey

TJJJ, are you saying that if you had to characterize the Haney tenure in one word it would be "APATHETIC"? How so? Instances?

He did not seem apathetic about the "message" in his message last year to the Conference entitled "Upon this Rock".

He seems pretty anchored in the message being the "only thing that really matters" and what "separates of from the rest of the religious world" in this special invitation to the first night of conference.

http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=qpt4347a

What one preaches at open meetings and what one really believes are often different. This is often the case with those in power. A person should be judged on his or her actions and not on their words, words are cheap.

EA · #5 09-30-2009, 09:29 AM

It will be an interesting election tomorrow.

Brother Haney MIGHT be reelected.

But if not, look for three names to be mentioned as his replacement.

Mooney, Bernard and Graham.

rgcraig · #6 09-30-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

It will be an interesting election tomorrow.

Brother Haney MIGHT be reelected.

But if not, look for three names to be mentioned as his replacement.

Mooney, Bernard and Graham.

I know Graham signed the wedeclare - - did Mooney and Bernard?

Kim Komando · #7 09-30-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I know Graham signed the wedeclare - - did Mooney and Bernard?

Mooney and Bernard, no doubt, believe the tenets of WeDeclare, but as members of the upper echolon, it would not be expedient for them to make such a public display, in my opinion.

We do know that Mooney spearheaded the campaign and committee targeting the "emergents".

And unconfirmed sources say Bernard was approached with the concept of WeDeclare before it was launched and gave his "unofficial" blessing.

May I add - Graham, doesn't have a snowball's chance.

n david · #8 09-30-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kim Komando

Mooney and Bernard, no doubt, believe the tenets of WeDeclare, but as members of the upper echolon, it would not be expedient for them to make such a public dislay, in my opinion.

We do know that Mooney spearheaded the campaign and committee targeting the "emergents".

And unconfirmed sources say Bernard was approached with the concept of WeDeclare before it was launched and gave his "unofficial" blessing.

May I add - Graham, doesn't have a snowball's chance.

If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance. He'll kick them all out before they have a chance to hand in their licenses. The org will splinter and have even more division ... but once he cleans house, things will settle down.

Not sure how DB would be. Graham I don't see as a GS ... he was my teacher @ Gateway, and I know he's expanded his role since then and is quite popular ... but I still can't see him in the role of GS.

I'd like to see AM as the UPC GS ... but I doubt that would happen.

MissBrattified · #9 09-30-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance. He'll kick them all out before they have a chance to hand in their licenses. The org will splinter and have even more division ... but once he cleans house, things will settle down.

Not sure how DB would be. Graham I don't see as a GS ... he was my teacher @ Gateway, and I know he's expanded his role since then and is quite popular ... but I still can't see him in the role of GS.

I'd like to see AM as the UPC GS ... but I doubt that would happen.

Barb · #10 09-30-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance. He'll kick them all out before they have a chance to hand in their licenses. The org will splinter and have even more division ... but once he cleans house, things will settle down.

Not sure how DB would be. Graham I don't see as a GS ... he was my teacher @ Gateway, and I know he's expanded his role since then and is quite popular ... but I still can't see him in the role of GS.

I'd like to see AM as the UPC GS ... but I doubt that would happen.

My personal choice would be for AM...

What is needed is someone with the heart and wisdom of NAU...as someone posted, he knew how to hold the different views together.