Alls that happens at the vatican is that the name of the pope changes!
It is still catholicism!
Although I will admit that haney seems to have taken the u pay cash to the left fairly quick! Old urshan seemed to have the nack to hold the cons and the libs together but KH was a polorizing personality that helped drive the factions apaart with his apparent unconcern with other opinions!
I have to disagree, perhaps the libs and cons have polarized but it has nothing to do with his personality.
Forgive me for not having a lot of faith in that prospect.
Personally, if the three names in are Mooney, Bernard & Graham, I'd pick Bernard.
DB's not perfect, but he is a peacemaker, and that's what the UPCI needs right now, IMO.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Forgive me for not having a lot of faith in that prospect.
Personally, if the three names in are Mooney, Bernard & Graham, I'd pick Bernard.
DB's not perfect, but he is a peacemaker, and that's what the UPCI needs right now, IMO.
The problem was we had a peacemaker, to keep the peace the moderates are always forced to give ground. There can be no peace unless the ultra cons get their way. They forced many out in the early 90's and they will do it again at every opportunity.
This is why water/spirit teaching is being forced down everyones throat as if it were the standard teaching of Apostolics. If the moderates stand up the Ultra cons scream bloody murder. No one is trying to push ultra cons out, they have a history of forcing their views on everyone else and have no problem pulling from the garden those that they see as tares.
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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow." ~Aesop
There is significant speculation and internal chatter that the GS will not garner the 2/3 vote necessary to continue at the helm.
With the formation of the newest PAC "We Declare", some believe that they may have the wherewithal to form a voting bloc, even in it's nascent phase, and may very well have marching orders from some in positions of influence to vote a certain way.
Will the mothership be going to the Mooney?
Or will she settle in Bernardville?
"If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance." Oh really? Hmmm, wonder if he will replace all his singers that wear rings and shortsleeves on his platform. He is far from a conservitive.
"If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance." Oh really? Hmmm, wonder if he will replace all his singers that wear rings and shortsleeves on his platform. He is far from a conservitive.
From messages I've listened to, he seems very conservative ...
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