And I suppose that this demonstrates "good spirit"
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
I think you forgot that he's right and everyone else is wrong.
And he doesn't care what I think because he believes he's an authority over me since he's a man and I'm a woman (he uses 1 Cor 11 to prove this). I'm puzzled as to why he ever started discussing it with me in the first place!!
Regarding I Cor. 11, it was brought up on the thread regarding women "preachers". And????????????? This passage is discussing headship & lineage, & not one single reputable transaltion adopts this as "Husband" & "Wife". "The head of Christ is God." Tell me Heavenlyone, is that also dicussing the "Marriage Life"? No, it discusses order & lineage....not husband & wife.
Funny, how you can demonstrate an uncharitable spirit, as in your 1st statement above, then deride me for putting the ball back in your court! Seems to me someone can dish it out, but.................
See I know where he is comming from. I was just like that 20+ years ago. I add the plus because time gets away form me. LOL You see God brought me to a stopping place where I had to take another look at things. I beleive God does this with everyone at several points in our lives. Whether we slow down enough to get what God is showing us is the question. The point is, God got my attention and I got into the word. Understand I was not trying to prove anything was wrong, I wanted to prove to myself what I preached was right. I had to conced I was wrong. I still did not change the things I preach for many years but I did change the way I preached them. So I have learned from God not to be confrontational but to put the scripture out there and let God do the work.
Some times it may take some time.
Well, what's so funny is that I've been doing the same thing for several years now & am now thoroughly convinced that what we teach is right. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't teaching something wrong, as I would have to give an account if I do. I can honestly say that, according to His Word, God is against the literal adornments of jewelry by his people. By the way, who was the 1st one to wear "jewels"...while your in Ezek., perhaps you should quote that also.
Wedding rings are steeped in pagan tradition, & the practice was made a law by Pope Innocent III. Won't take the time here, but it's terribly pagan. And no, we don't wear watches either...before you ask. I, personally, do not like a neckties, but I see nothing wrong w/ a conservative tie, as part of a modest suit. The Bible only addresses "costly/modest apparel"...neither of which meager a necktie violates, but again, I personally don't care for them.
... I, personally, do not like a neckties, but I see nothing wrong w/ a conservative tie, as part of a modest suit. The Bible only addresses "costly/modest apparel"...neither of which meager a necktie violates, but again, I personally don't care for them.
Actually, a necktie or a scarf (unless it is a heavy duty muffler to keep the neck and throat warm) are both just a cloth necklace.
I haven't bought any neckties lately but some of the last ones I bought were more expensive than the shirts that I wore them with.
Wouldn't the styles at GC and most of our district functions qualify as "costly array"?
Re: And I suppose that this demonstrates "good spi
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Originally Posted by rdp
Regarding I Cor. 11, it was brought up on the thread regarding women "preachers". And????????????? This passage is discussing headship & lineage, & not one single reputable transaltion adopts this as "Husband" & "Wife". "The head of Christ is God." Tell me Heavenlyone, is that also dicussing the "Marriage Life"? No, it discusses order & lineage....not husband & wife.
Funny, how you can demonstrate an uncharitable spirit, as in your 1st statement above, then deride me for putting the ball back in your court! Seems to me someone can dish it out, but.................
Does this mean that I said nothing untrue in that post? If not, then what's the problem?
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Well, what's so funny is that I've been doing the same thing for several years now & am now thoroughly convinced that what we teach is right. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't teaching something wrong, as I would have to give an account if I do. I can honestly say that, according to His Word, God is against the literal adornments of jewelry by his people. By the way, who was the 1st one to wear "jewels"...while your in Ezek., perhaps you should quote that also.
Wedding rings are steeped in pagan tradition, & the practice was made a law by Pope Innocent III. Won't take the time here, but it's terribly pagan. And no, we don't wear watches either...before you ask. I, personally, do not like a neckties, but I see nothing wrong w/ a conservative tie, as part of a modest suit. The Bible only addresses "costly/modest apparel"...neither of which meager a necktie violates, but again, I personally don't care for them.
Wrong.
1Pe 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
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strange how folks can read passages like 1 Timothy 2:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:1-4 where we are told that jewelry, hair styles, and clothing are not the REAL adorning but we have a greater adorning from the Spirit within, and then selectively ban some of the stuff mentioned there.
Following is part of a post by Timlan from a couple of years ago about Marvin Hicks:
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I don't know how embellished this story was but he has a point. It is really one of the best refutations to those who mindlessly and stupidly Polly-Parrot I Peter 3: 3 to condemn wearing a watch or other jewelry.
Here's the scripture in question:
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; (KJV)
Hicks told this anecdote many times in camp meeting messages.
After a camp meeting service he preached Hicks said a 12-13 year old boy approached him.
The boy said: "Preacher, do you believe in wearing a wristwatch?"
Hicks told congregations: "Well, he caught me redhanded. I had one on."
After Hicks told the kid "yes son, it's okay to wear a wristwatch", the boy said "well, have I got a scripture for you" and proceeded to tell the camp evangelist off.
After reading 1 Peter 3: 3 about the "wearing of gold" the boy began to lambast Hicks about preaching a camp meeting with a wristwatch on.
Hicks stopped the boy and calmly told him: "Son, read the rest of that verse. The part about 'apparel.'
The boy said "Apparel? What's that ?"
Hicks: "Son, that's your britches. That's the clothes you wear."
(I've pictured this conversation in my mind's eye over the decades ... it must have been hilarious in person.)
Hicks then told the kid: "Son, I'll make a deal with you. You're chewing me out for wearing a wristwatch and your scripture also says 'the wearing of apparel' in the same verse.
"So I'll make a deal with you, son. I'll take my wristwatch off if you'll take your clothes off."
Well, the kid didn't take the camp evangelist up on his offer.
This was some 30 years ago.
Looking on many pentecostal message boards, it seems a good segment of oneness pentecostalism is no less ignorant.
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