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Old 10-21-2009, 11:50 PM
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You know, Pel, I think you know by now that I'm the president of the Pelthais Fan Club. I've learned more from you than the whole forum combined. But now we're gonna have to fight on that MJ thing. Come on! He was great, and I can't believe I'm saying, "Was."

Take the 5 minutes it needs and watch this. It's musical art at it's best.
Music's like food. We all have a certain taste that we crave and only certain things really satisfy. There's no correct or incorrect choices, just a matter of preference and style.

I don't know that I'd ever heard that song before. I looked up the lyrics and read them as I went through the video a second time. The video work is outstanding; the crack of the slo-mo baseball bat in time along with the splash of rain drops - those were really nice touches. Are real artist was at work directing and influencing those things in the final edit.

But the whole "KGB" thing and "stranger in Moscow?" Dunno. I read the Wikipedia.org article on the timing of MJ's writing of this song. It was 1993, the Berlin wall was down, he was on tour in Moscow and scandalous accusations broke in the US media.

Is that why the city in the video was so obviously an American city, complete with AT&T pay phones? The "KGB" that was dogging him was not a Russian agency, but the American press and law enforcement. Ironically, Gorbachev had just dismantled the KGB and opened Russia to Westerners like MJ.

I know he had a profound influence on an entire generation, and that his influence reached its heights long before the allegations came out. So, most of his fans will remember with fondness the "pre-1993" MJ without the taint of scandal. Such nostalgia does give one's life a certain richness that I would be loathe to interfere with.

But for myself, that whole period of time falls into my "cultural black hole period." The music of the eighties and nineties, the movies, the television shows and just about everything else were taboo for me back then. I'm sort of like the "non-strangers" in Moscow. I opened up, like Gorbachev's Russia, to a whole panoply of arts and music - only to find myself almost immediately having to listen to the sordid details of scandal.

MJ is a bit of a stranger to me. I can see a real hand of genius was at work, but it was a work constructed for others. I must admire and critique outside in the rain, like a bewildered Moscovite at times.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:12 AM
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I NEVER miss an episode of AI and I can't think of this name either!

But Adam Lambert is the BEST I've seen EVER on the show. I'll buy anything he records. I think he could be iconish like Presley, Jackson, the Beatles. Hopefully, he doesn't self-destruct.
I've NEVER watched AI till this past season and even then I missed too many
*darn* I watched only 'cause of this guy [I wish I could see all the episodes I missed with him singing, I heard I missed some really great ones] he is THE BEST, I agree that voice is FOR REAL and does just about anything.
Just watched this video - EXCELLENT and the movie is 2012??? Oh great!I shoulda known someone would make a movie about that.

People are making sooo much of that year .. but thats another topic.

ANYWAY I LOVE ADAM LAMBERT, his personal life aside. I do believe he is
ALREADY a superstar., I've seen some of his other video's from his past [excellent] he has been shining for a long time., and is a PRO, IMHO., he IS the best one of all the stars that have come from AI (that I know of, lol)
and in this newest video he is awesome! He looks a bit different though, but
for THAT video I guess he had to, and its a great look.

I highly doubt that ADAM will self-destruct., but I wish that he was heterosexual, I mean, IF he self-destructed it would have to be from AIDS.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:43 AM
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I've NEVER watched AI till this past season and even then I missed too many
*darn* I watched only 'cause of this guy [I wish I could see all the episodes I missed with him singing, I heard I missed some really great ones] he is THE BEST, I agree that voice is FOR REAL and does just about anything.
Just watched this video - EXCELLENT and the movie is 2012??? Oh great!I shoulda known someone would make a movie about that.

People are making sooo much of that year .. but thats another topic.

ANYWAY I LOVE ADAM LAMBERT, his personal life aside. I do believe he is
ALREADY a superstar., I've seen some of his other video's from his past [excellent] he has been shining for a long time., and is a PRO, IMHO., he IS the best one of all the stars that have come from AI (that I know of, lol)
and in this newest video he is awesome! He looks a bit different though, but
for THAT video I guess he had to, and its a great look.

I highly doubt that ADAM will self-destruct., but I wish that he was heterosexual, I mean, IF he self-destructed it would have to be from AIDS.
He's doing the music for "2012?" (groan!)

I'm with you. What are you doing in 2012? Maybe we can get some others together and we can hang out while evrybody else's world comes to an end.

If Benincasa hadn't been taken up in the (or "a") rapture last month he'd join us for sure.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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So now we are seeing the gay agenda being promoted here?
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:11 PM
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No no...Adam's cool because he can hit high notes. It doesn't matter that he is gay. All that matters is that he is emo, sings ok and entertains.

Don't you go stirring up trouble! LOL.
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So now we are seeing the gay agenda being promoted here?
WHAT!!!???!!
Where on earth do you GET that? Sheeesh, talk about taking
things out of bounds!!!

ANYWAY, IF that were even the case, it would not be so
strange, in keeping with a lot of the stuff I've read here on a liberal
bent.

BUT on this topic, NO, its NOT, at least not from me.
Just 'cause I like his music., doesnt' mean I condone his preferred
sexual orientation., did you not read all of my post?

Obviously not.
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No no...Adam's cool because he can hit high notes. It doesn't matter that he is gay. All that matters is that he is emo, sings ok and entertains.

Don't you go stirring up trouble! LOL.
Bravo!
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He's doing the music for "2012?" (groan!)

I'm with you. What are you doing in 2012? Maybe we can get some others together and we can hang out while evrybody else's world comes to an end.

If Benincasa hadn't been taken up in the (or "a") rapture last month he'd join us for sure.
I want to be on a cruise!
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:28 PM
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He's doing the music for "2012?" (groan!)

I'm with you. What are you doing in 2012? Maybe we can get some others together and we can hang out while evrybody else's world comes to an end.
If Benincasa hadn't been taken up in the (or "a") rapture last month he'd join us for sure.
YEAH that'll be one heck of a revival,

Well at least ONE song that I know of is for that movie, which I did not even
know about till watching that video and reading a comment there.

AND..people are stupid, what can I say., re 2012.
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WHAT!!!???!!
Where on earth do you GET that? Sheeesh, talk about taking
things out of bounds!!!

ANYWAY, IF that were even the case, it would not be so
strange, in keeping with a lot of the stuff I've read here on a liberal
bent.

BUT on this topic, NO, its NOT, at least not from me.
Just 'cause I like his music., doesnt' mean I condone his preferred
sexual orientation., did you not read all of my post?

Obviously not.
AL is so increadably gay and was pushed by AI to the fullest. it is sick.

yea, i am intollerant of that getting into the church. I consider APF in some ways "church".
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