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Old 10-30-2009, 12:26 AM
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....if you obeyed those Old Testament laws that don't apply to you? Whether it's because they were only for the Jews or because the laws are repealed or whatever the reason, certainly God wouldn't mind if you obeyed them, anyway.

Would He?
I don't think God would be pleased. Here's my reasoning....

Imagine that you had a wife and you loved her dearly. But she wasn't faithful to you. So you end up with a divorce. Your New Wife is lovely, different, charming, and a free spirit. But she looks at pictures of your old wife and begins to wear her hair like her, dress like her, say things she'd say the way she'd say them, eat her favorite dishes, etc. Would you be pleased?

Just a few thoughts.

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I don't think God would be pleased. Here's my reasoning....

Imagine that you had a wife and you loved her dearly. But she wasn't faithful to you. So you end up with a divorce. Your New Wife is lovely, different, charming, and a free spirit. But she looks at pictures of your old wife and begins to wear her hair like her, dress like her, say things she'd say the way she'd say them, eat her favorite dishes, etc. Would you be pleased?

Just a few thoughts.
Well, I guess I see your point, but, well, this is quite a bit different. Quite a bit! Here's (maybe) a better analogy:

Imagine that you have a set of rules for your kids:
1. Clean your room every day.
2. Take three showers a day.
3. If you break a rule, you must skip the next meal.
Now, suppose you change the rules:
1. Clean your room whenever it needs cleaning.
2. Take one shower a day.
3. If you break a rule, say you're sorry.
Now suppose your son keeps on cleaning his room every day, even if it doesn't need it, and takes three showers a day (whether he needs them or not). Once in a while, he misses a shower, and he skips a meal -- and says he's sorry!

What's the problem?

From your analogy, it seems like you think God would be angry if I, say, wore only 100% cotton clothing because I think that's what God wants. He used to require it, after all. Why should I think He doesn't care about that, anymore? (Besides, it makes about as much sense as some of the standards you guys like to discuss here! )
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What was the story in that thread that you were trying to get? Both the poster you appear to have been talking to and his/her posts seem to have been cut out. See post #7 in that thread.
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What was the story in that thread that you were trying to get? Both the poster you appear to have been talking to and his/her posts seem to have been cut out. See post #7 in that thread.
Wait, what do you mean? Apprehended posted a few more times after that. But yeah, never substantiated the story. The posts are still there, including the one I quoted in #7.

BTW, I emailed the public relations office of that prison. They never heard of the incident in question. (I mentioned that in the thread.)
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One of my favorites from post 1 of that thread:

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After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be. With an ironic tone he said: "Not even God can sink it" The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic
God punished thousands, because of one man's sin. I'm having deja vu!

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I think when dealing with the Law we have to remember... Paul taught us that the Law was a schoolmaster designed to bring us to Christ. It illustrated how sinful and how unlike God we truly are and therefore how badly we need a Savior. The wasn't desgined to be obeyed for any salvific purpose. Nobody was saved by keeping the Law. The act of the cross was effectual through the sacrifices of the OT prior to Calvary just as the act of the cross is effectual through repentance now after Calvary. To try to please God by keeping the Law is in a way disregarding Calvary.

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I think when dealing with the Law we have to remember... Paul taught us that the Law was a schoolmaster designed to bring us to Christ. It illustrated how sinful and how unlike God we truly are and therefore how badly we need a Savior. The wasn't desgined to be obeyed for any salvific purpose. Nobody was saved by keeping the Law. The act of the cross was effectual through the sacrifices of the OT prior to Calvary just as the act of the cross is effectual through repentance now after Calvary. To try to please God by keeping the Law is in a way disregarding Calvary.

At least that's one way of looking at it.
But that wasn't the question, either. It's this:

Would God be mad if I obeyed those laws?


The reason I would obey them (in this question) is not so I can be saves. It's just because I want to please God.

Now, to take your argument to its logical conclusion, God would be mad about obeying any law, such as the Ten Commandments, and not just the absurd ones! Now, if you explain that by pointing out that there are different kinds of law (moral law, ceremonial law, and I can never remember that other one), and the moral laws are still "in effect" and so must be obeyed, that's fine, but it again misses the point. See the question above, and apply it to those other types of laws.
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But that wasn't the question, either. It's this:

Would God be mad if I obeyed those laws?


The reason I would obey them (in this question) is not so I can be saves. It's just because I want to please God.

Now, to take your argument to its logical conclusion, God would be mad about obeying any law, such as the Ten Commandments, and not just the absurd ones! Now, if you explain that by pointing out that there are different kinds of law (moral law, ceremonial law, and I can never remember that other one), and the moral laws are still "in effect" and so must be obeyed, that's fine, but it again misses the point. See the question above, and apply it to those other types of laws.
That's a wonderful point to bring up TIMMAY.
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Wait, what do you mean? Apprehended posted a few more times after that. But yeah, never substantiated the story. The posts are still there, including the one I quoted in #7.

BTW, I emailed the public relations office of that prison. They never heard of the incident in question. (I mentioned that in the thread.)
Thanks, I was scrolling quickly through looking for a short little post like you had quoted and missed that it was part of the larger one.
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God punished thousands, because of one man's sin. I'm having deja vu!

I've always wondered about people who see God as a sort of "Zeus-like" character, standing astride Mount Olympus and throwing his thunderbolts at the wayward.

The problem with this "Zeus" is that he seems to have horrible aim. Unsubstantiated stories are told of those who mocked God and were struck by lightening, but then we read of the real stories and find innocent children killed, innocent passersby and even very pious people getting fried.

Can't "Zeus" hit a target without torching the countryside with all of his "misses?"

I like this famous statue. The "thunderbolt" is missing, and so our "Zeus" is powerless to fry those who would question his rule. But more than that, the absence of the weapon makes identifying the subject difficult. Is this Zeus throwing a lightening bolt? Or is it Poseidon throwing his trident?



You get the idea that a lot of fanatics have a similar problem with their gods. Just who is this "god" that is throwing bolts of judgment with such poor aim? They don't really seem to know, but they seem determined to try and make the rest of us think they do.

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