Tiger Woods Update Thread

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

No, I didn't' think Tiger was a great golfer. Everyone knew that he was. Most of us thought he was a "good guy" when it came to his family. I would never expect perfection. I WOULD expect faithfulness to Elin, as did she, as did most, and I assume YOU as well.

I'll admit, I'm surprised at what has taken place. And because I have a son that has, from the time he was small, prayed for Tiger to come to faith in Christ, we are both heartbroken at what has occurred, and hopeful that this will allow him to realize he needs something more than his own strength, talent, and discipline.

Yes, I would have hoped that he would be faithful, but I also know that rock stars, actors, and athletes face sexual temptations to extents that you and I will never comprehend. I'd like to think I would pass the test. But honestly, none of us could know for sure until we were in that place. I hope by God's grace, I would. But I also hope that if I blew it, even repeatedly as Tiger did, that there would be a place of shelter and safety for me.

I also have no problem whatsoever stating in clarity that my depravity, without God's grace deserves an horrible pit. But He, through His blood has promised me a heavenly place. However, because of his larger than life, life and his apparent, good family man personna, we all expected more and that expectation is not unreasonable. It is expected of ALL leaders. There are certain things you can't get away with when it comes to leadership. Those who fail to realize that, IMO, are in danger of repeating them.

I don't see Tiger as a leader of anything besides tournament leader boards and PGA Tour money lists. Your remarks concerning leaders would seem to apply to everyone.

A leader can make many mistakes which will not ruin his leadership. He can have a slip of the tongue; file taxes late; make a less than stellar decision, misjudge a situation; loose his temper etc. But when a leader makes such an egregious error in judgment, which goes to the very core of his ability to lead, that is keeping his word, that "Titanic" is going down. That is not a criticism of the man. That is simply the way leadership works.

Again, what you're saying about leaders applies to everyone.

Tiger himself said, "I may not be able to repair the damage I've done." He knows how bad this is and he knows it MUCH better than any of us who are on the internet typing gibberish. It's theory to us, but it's real for him and his family. I think it's notable that he has not hired a PR crisis management firm to help. He's going with his heart and I think that's a great start.

You continually fail to mention the GOOD things I have stated regarding this situation. I didn't stop at the good things because of the reality. No fear in stating truth. I have not judged him. I have only said what I would say if I were in his shoes. Accepting responsibility is what big boys do. Generals well understand that as do presidents and kings etc.

The good things you say are always followed by, "But....". Like I said when this all started, "If you'd just stopped after the first paragraph."

I don't understand why we all need to point pout the obvious. Galatians 5 says, "The works of the flesh are evident" or "obvious." We all know what he did wrong and we all know how terrible it is. So does Tiger. Why do we feel the need to come here and throw our hat into the ring of announcing his wrongs? What more is there to say than, "Oh God!! Help him! Please!"? Is there really anything else to say?

Pro. 6:32 But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. 33 Blows and disgrace are his lot, and his shame will never be wiped away;

"He forgave all your sin. He canceled the record that contained the charges against us. He took it and destroyed it by nailing it to Christ's cross." Colossians 2:14-15.

Jesus bore not only our sin but our shame as well.

The balance is this: Jn. 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

I and my family are praying that he will come to the Father. And in the midst of the prayers, there seems to be nothing else to say.