Winterfire 2010

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Justin

Starting on page 12



He then breaks it down verse by verse... here is an excerpt from verse 10 (power on their head):

It seems Woodward from what I can tell got his occult citations from Jasinski's My Hair, My Glory.

For him to claim that uncut hair is necessary to cast out demons in addition to the power of the Holy Ghost and the power and authority we have in the name of Jesus Christ is heretical.

Monkeyman does he teach HMH with regularity @ the church?

[DAII]

With Woodward in New Brunswick, Jasinski in Maine, Reider in Connecticut and Stoneking from NY, I have to wonder if HMH has a stronghold on some of the Northeast churches.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by DAII

With Woodward in New Brunswick, Jasinski in Maine, Reider in Connecticut and Stoneking from NY, I have to wonder if HMH has a stronghold on some of the Northeast churches.

I would have to add Mark Bassett, Conn. with this list of Northeast heretical teachers of this heinous doctrine with his recent and constant forum activity defending this position.

Not surprisingly, I understand he now advocates and feels snake handlers will make heaven before those who reason logically and intellectually with the Word of God.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by DAII

With Woodward in New Brunswick, Jasinski in Maine, Reider in Connecticut and Stoneking from NY, I have to wonder if HMH has a stronghold on some of the Northeast churches.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

No Mizzie... Not you too!

[Stephanas]

Originally Posted by DAII

It seems Woodward from what I can tell got his occult citations from Jasinski's My Hair, My Glory.

For him to claim that uncut hair is necessary to cast out demons in addition to the power of the Holy Ghost and the power and authority we have in the name of Jesus Christ is heretical.

Monkeyman does he teach HMH with regularity @ the church?

The quoted article is more than ten and perhaps as many as fifteen years old.

The "claim that uncut hair is necessary to cast out demons in addition to the power of the Holy Ghost and the power and authority we have in the name of Jesus Christ" is only heretical if the "uncut hair" doctrine is untrue. If cutting the hair is an intentional act of disobedience to the Scriptures, and if the women who cuts her hair is living in open rebellion to God and His Word, then it follows logically that uncut hair is necessary to have the spiritual authority to cast out demons.

Unfortunately for the author making the claim, there is no empirical evidence that uncut hair is required to cast out demons.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

The quoted article is more than ten and perhaps as many as fifteen years old.

The "claim that uncut hair is necessary to cast out demons in addition to the power of the Holy Ghost and the power and authority we have in the name of Jesus Christ" is only heretical if the "uncut hair" doctrine is untrue. If cutting the hair is an intentional act of disobedience to the Scriptures, and if the women who cuts her hair is living in open rebellion to God and His Word, then it follows logically that uncut hair is necessary to have the spiritual authority to cast out demons.

Unfortunately for the author making the claim, there is no empirical evidence that uncut hair is required to cast out demons.

Jasinski's book is at least that old (circa 1996)... she personally brags that it has over 300 mostly occult references (http://julijasinski.blogspot.com/200...-hair-for.html).... many used by Stoneking.

She also states she sought legal counsel for use of these quotes here:

http://everyonesapostolic.com/xn/detail/u_rdulofdj2gpb

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[DAII]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Don't be mad ... I would say it is a regional thing but Reider moved there teaching it from her days in New Mexico ....

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

The quoted article is more than ten and perhaps as many as fifteen years old.

The "claim that uncut hair is necessary to cast out demons in addition to the power of the Holy Ghost and the power and authority we have in the name of Jesus Christ" is only heretical if the "uncut hair" doctrine is untrue. If cutting the hair is an intentional act of disobedience to the Scriptures, and if the women who cuts her hair is living in open rebellion to God and His Word, then it follows logically that uncut hair is necessary to have the spiritual authority to cast out demons.

Unfortunately for the author making the claim, there is no empirical evidence that uncut hair is required to cast out demons.

Any type of disobedience is rebellion against God's Word.

Also, Stephanas does the requirement of flawless perfection, as advocated inferentially in this argument, in order to cast out demons .... also apply to gossiping, not paying tithes, contention, and other "inward sins"

The a priori argument, or flawed conditional, made by Woodward and Treece is that a woman shouldn't dare cast out a demon ... is not because the demon can inwardly discern the spiritual condition of the exociser but rather sees the outward sign of uncut hair as a sign of spiritual authorty and can then detect "rebellion".

So this only applies to hair cutting? Is a demon subject to all men who have short hair ... and "fooled" by uncut hair on a sinful woman? Do they carry a checklist to know whether or not to submit to the authority of the exorciser?

I find Jesus commissioning 70 disciples to cast out demons prior to Pentecost ... under the authority and power of His name ... were they in full compliance, Pre-Pentecost? I don't know.

I am sure you and I have witnessed demons being cast out by preachers who are less the flawless ...

Nor do I see that this can happen unless one relies on Christ as our obedience.

[DAII]

MD Treece who Woodward quotes clearly believes a woman's authority before God and angels/demons is her uncut hair:

The hair on your head is a woman's authority in the presence of God, and in the world of angels and demons.

Your hair is the symbol of your place in creation order of man, and becomes your authority before God and angels.

Source: "Slipping Past the Harbor", A Study of Bible Standards Regarding Hair & the Order of Creation
http://www.altupc.com/altupc/articles/harbour.htm