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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
There are always 2 sides to every story, BUT I am seeing more problems with women than men lately.
We have ahd a rash of marriages on the verge of divorce, some actually getting divorced, and in every case...the man is still in churhc and the women has either left, sits on the very fringe or has thrown away every semblance of traditional holiness on her way out of her marrige. In every case the women (they have made it clear and don't keep quiet about it) say they want to relive their lost youth. They went, in many cases, and got young boyfriends. They tossed their husbands to the wayside in order to live it up.
I'm watching thesse men, men who have been faithful for years (not perfect, but faithful) try to scramble to pick up pieces and hold their families together because their wives wouldn't submit to them and follow their leadership. Instead they knew better and were going to "enjoy themselves". Now they have wrecked entire families.
Yes there are always 2 sides, but I'm seeing a lot more women acting like teenage tramps than I am men messing around on their wives. Probably because sadly it appears to be more acceptable now that women be the cheaters.
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Are you talking about in the church? Outside of the church, you have men who don't even want to commit to marriage in the first place, let alone be faithful to their wives once they do get married. Men who expect a woman to sleep with them if they buy her dinner, and mock women who save themselves for marriage. Men who are addicted to porn, and unrealistically expect regular women to look (and act) like porn stars.
Additionally, IN the church, you have men who want their wives to look very holy, but they're constantly admiring worldly women. Women pick up on those messages loud and clear. If a husband is constantly commenting on how plain Apostolic women are, and how beautiful movie stars are, his wife will abscond with traditional holiness and try to be beautiful for him according to the standards HE has subconsciously set. (No matter what he says to the contrary--actions speak louder than words.) A man who is constantly critiquing the Apostolic "look" can expect his wife to veer in another direction.
Men in the church sometimes use the Bible as an excuse to be bossy, mean, belligerent, and unkind. That isn't what it means to be a leader, and most MEN wouldn't submit to a pastor or employer who acted like that, so why do they expect their wives to do it? Submission to a husband is a biblical mandate that goes right along with the man's biblical mandates. The two have to work together. Men who don't go out of their way to provide for their families, love their wives in the sense of
giving of themselves selflessly for her benefit, have no reasonable expectation of submission.
Men have the harder job in the home, from a biblical perspective, but those who really fulfill those mandates seem to be few and far between. Most just want to bring home money, relax on the couch, and say, "Submit to me, woman, and bring me some iced tea--you have to because the Bible sez so!"
Do I believe in submission? Yes! Absolutely. I just get tired of hearing women being harped on all the time! If it's not about how women should look, it's about how women should act. I can count on one hand the number of sermons I've heard in my life that were intended solely for men, teaching them how to be godly men, especially in reference to their homes. And one of those was a cassette tape from a men's conference, where presumably men were the only ones available to listen, so I'm not sure that counts. That seems so backwards--men are the ones doing the majority of the teaching and preaching, so they should have WAY more to say to men than to the women. JMO!!!!
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