God's Grace, Love or Mercy will not SAVE you ...

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

God's grace does come at a cost. The ultimate cost and the price has been paid. In Christ sacrifice he not only paid for our sins but also did the work that must be accomplished to save us.

Yes Christ obtained the ability to OFFER/GIFT salvation. We have a price to pay as well to obtain eternal life.

Yes, we do obey God's commandments and through the process of sanctification he will save those whom are his.

Sorry don't believe in this mindset. We are saved because of our response to the covenant and he will judge in the end. Sanctification is a very misapplied concept. Judgment is based upon known responsibility and response to what is required of the hearer from the start to the end. We are his as long as we abide.

Some of you have a few commandments that you consider a prerequisite for new birth. Anybody can check off a list of things to do but when God does the work it is a perfect work.

and your point? He does a work yes but the response is a must to continue in him or "abide". God has his check list and sees your response.

Repent - easy enough, we have seen 1000s do the Pentecostal version of this only to never to be seen again.

Nice try Billy Graham! That would be more the baptist isolate, not Pentecostals.

Be Baptized - same as above. How many of these baptisimal tanks have we seen set up in parks and on the street and homeless people being "saved" because of their obedience only to once again never been seen or heard from again.

So does this pathetic argument change what baptism is to the repentant?

Baptized in the Holy Ghost - this is the hazing that every Christian has to go through in order to be received into the church. Usually, the music has to be loud, specially trained "altar workers" are brought in to coach people into receiving. Many stutter and stammer only to be told that they almost got it and to keep seeking. They are reminded that if they would only totally yield themselves to God or have real faith they will receive and speak in tongues. Remember, if you just completely submit yourself to God he will give it to you but only if you beg, cry, and wail hard enough.

Yep, love the head hazers in Acts 8 coming down to put the smack down upon the believers that they would receive the HS. Yep! Def looked for something more than the Baptist... I just believe I received it(blind faith)... yep!

Your obedience has been turned into a science by many and with just the right preaching and music and laying on of hand it can achieve by anybody.

No god started the science of what it is long before us. He is the one giving principle to live by and defining it.

Yep, sounds exactly like grace to me and exactly the obedience that God was talking about all throughout the bible.

You, from your writings in total teach a reformed doctrine which is heretical as it gets. Least to say the view of grace many teach is a warped doctrine.