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Old 03-11-2010, 08:51 PM
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The highlighted statements are exactly what I'm talking about! Yes, it certainly is unfortunate that "some with this understanding" hold it in the way you just said it.

So you're saying that a trinitarian "can't get a handle on what God did"??? Are you serious???
Wow! you are blowing this way out of proportion!

Can you see the difference between God sending someone else and God coming to save his image bearers himself? MOW would be arrogant if he thought that he was more deserving of this revelation than Trinitarians but I don't see MOW thinking that way. I'm sure he'd love to share his understanding with every Trinitarian so that they could have a better and truer understanding of who died on the cross for their sins.

The chip on your shoulder is still there.
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:54 PM
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Re: The "Claim to the Name"

I've been reading MOW's posts here for a long time and I would not consider him to be an arrogant person.
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:57 PM
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NOW, your not treating his statement correctly. I don't see it as arrogant, but factual. Also MOW noted that trinitarians had a better understanding of justification, and I would add to that grace.

Its not arrogance, but fact.
Anybody remember that TV show, "The Guns of Will Sonnett", where Walter Brennan plays an old gun slinger? He'd talk about his prowess with a gun, and add "No brag, just fact." So it's kinda like that?
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Wow! you are blowing this way out of proportion!

Can you see the difference between God sending someone else and God coming to save his image bearers himself? MOW would be arrogant if he thought that he was more deserving of this revelation than Trinitarians but I don't see MOW thinking that way. I'm sure he'd love to share his understanding with every Trinitarian so that they could have a better and truer understanding of who died on the cross for their sins.

The chip on your shoulder is still there.

"Chip"?

Look, let me see if simplification will be beneficial.

Person A believes he has a superior understanding of God and His workings than Person B. I don't know, what do you call it? I call it theological arrogance. I can't think of anything else.
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I've been reading MOW's posts here for a long time and I would not consider him to be an arrogant person.

I don't believe I said he was an arrogant person. But MOW believes he has a greater understand of God and His workings due to his supposed greater understanding of the Godhead. If it's not theological arrogance, what should we call it?
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Anybody remember that TV show, "The Guns of Will Sonnett", where Walter Brennan plays an old gun slinger? He'd talk about his prowess with a gun, and add "No brag, just fact." So it's kinda like that?
Hey Timmy, I'm smarter than you, richer than you, better looking than you, know more about God than you, I'm wiser, my car is better, my kids are smarter, I'm more athletic, and my wife is prettier.

But I'm not sounding arrogant or anything.
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NOW, I certainly think there are views of God that are more proper, better, superior, or more Biblical. Those having the better view are not necessarily guilty of theological arrogance.

I have certainly not known MOW as an arrogant poster.
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NOW, I certainly think there are views of God that are more proper, better, superior, or more Biblical. Those having the better view are necessarily guilty of theological arrogance.

I have certainly not known MOW as an arrogant poster.

Nor have I, but I believe he's holding to a theologically arrogant position. Again, here's the scenario:

Person A believes he knows more about God and His workings than person B. What other word would describe those feelings, especially if it's not absolute documented fact, and rather, just one person thinking that he knows more than someone else?

If there's a better word(s) than "Theologically arrogant" tell me what it would be.
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Nor have I, but I believe he's holding to a theologically arrogant position. Again, here's the scenario:

Person A believes he knows more about God and His workings than person B. What other word would describe those feelings, especially if it's not absolute documented fact, and rather, just one person thinking that he knows more than someone else?

If there's a better word(s) than "Theologically arrogant" tell me what it would be.
How about "Biblical correctness", "inspired understanding" or "Spiritually enlightened"? I don't know... how would you differentiate your own understanding of scripture from someone you seriously disagreed with (particularly on the nature or person of God)?
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