Many years ago when I was in Bible College at JCM there was a redneck married student who broke his 40 day fast by eating pizza and drinking a chocolate milkshake (apparently the two foods he had been fantasizing about). He ended up in the hospital.
Now if he had half a brain and had listened to what was being taught he would have known the correct way to both fast and to break a fast. He had no one to blame but himself but what a terrible reflection on the Bible College and Pentecostals that something like this happened.
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Many years ago when I was in Bible College at JCM there was a redneck married student who broke his 40 day fast by eating pizza and drinking a chocolate milkshake (apparently the two foods he had been fantasizing about). He ended up in the hospital.
Now if he had half a brain and had listened to what was being taught he would have known the correct way to both fast and to break a fast. He had no one to blame but himself but what a terrible reflection on the Bible College and Pentecostals that something like this happened.
That's just stupid. LOL!!!! Good grief! That kind of food makes me sick when I'm NOT fasting!
This case sounds like ignorance, and good intentions gone WAY wrong, at best. I'm still not convinced that's all there is to this story.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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But really.....and I'll get yelled at for this.....but of course she was pentecostal. Any chance a mainstream Christian would have done this?
Yes. There are plenty of misguided people in all denominations. Pentecostals certainly have no monopoly on nuttiness/overzealousness, whatever you want to label it.
When I read of this, it never crossed my mind that she might be Pentecostal. There are a lot of "radical" Christians out there.
I've never heard of this happening in Pentecostal ranks. Can you cite any cases? There are many people who incorporate lengthy fasting into their religious experience, including Catholics, Muslims, Jews & mainstream Christians.
"Dr Asker Jeukendrup, a nutritionist at the University of Birmingham, said it was unlikely that 23 days of starvation would kill a normally healthy and average weight person, who would be able to stand 40 days of total fasting without serious ill-effects. But he pointed out that the longer someone goes without food the more the body becomes vulnerable to illness and infection."
Yeah....see there? I think we need to hire the Hardy Boys to investigate this husband. Seriously, is there any chance he could have orchestrated this?
You've never heard of it? Wow. We used to have sectional fellowship meetings where we would have fasting contests and see how many could make it to 20 days. I once made it 71 days, my brother 38 days, my mom 104 days (she lost 112 pounds and started out at 144), but the champ was Bro. Boyardee (local chef) who went 172 days. He didn't lose any weight so some of us think he cheated. That guy could make some mean ravioli. We would keep a scoreboard on the back wall of the church.
Like I said, I knew I'd get yelled at, but I'm just saying it sounds like something a pentecostal would do. And I actually CAN cite a number of extreme cases of fasting I've been familiar with.
Yes. There are plenty of misguided people in all denominations. Pentecostals certainly have no monopoly on nuttiness/overzealousness, whatever you want to label it.
When I read of this, it never crossed my mind that she might be Pentecostal. There are a lot of "radical" Christians out there.
Case in point.... a couple recently were charged because their child died from "spanking". The couple said they were following the program outlined by Michael and Debi Pearl. The Pearls are definitely not Pentecostal. There are many other cases such as this. Very zealous people who are misguided, and end up causing catastrophes in the name of the Lord.
I've never heard of this happening in Pentecostal ranks. Can you cite any cases? There are many people who incorporate lengthy fasting into their religious experience, including Catholics, Muslims, Jews & mainstream Christians.
"Dr Asker Jeukendrup, a nutritionist at the University of Birmingham, said it was unlikely that 23 days of starvation would kill a normally healthy and average weight person, who would be able to stand 40 days of total fasting without serious ill-effects. But he pointed out that the longer someone goes without food the more the body becomes vulnerable to illness and infection."
It doesn't say whether the devout Christian was Pentecostal or not, but it does quote her mother saying, "She fasted frequently and would do it when the Lord told her to." If God talks to you, you might be in trouble!
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Yes. There are plenty of misguided people in all denominations. Pentecostals certainly have no monopoly on nuttiness/overzealousness, whatever you want to label it.
When I read of this, it never crossed my mind that she might be Pentecostal. There are a lot of "radical" Christians out there.
Honestly, when I read it, I never thought she could be anything but pentecostal. Pentecostals have mostly a completely different view of fasting than mainstream Christianity.
Off the top of my head, I can cite 7 cases in my past of people doing extreme fasts, and in my now, 20+ years of mainstream Christianity, I know of none.
I know I can't prove this and some will think it's just part of my anti-pentecostal bias, but for me, it's an easy call.
Yeah....see there? I think we need to hire the Hardy Boys to investigate this husband. Seriously, is there any chance he could have orchestrated this?
You've never heard of it? Wow. We used to have sectional fellowship meetings where we would have fasting contests and see how many could make it to 20 days. I once made it 71 days, my brother 38 days, my mom 104 days (she lost 112 pounds and started out at 144), but the champ was Bro. Boyardee (local chef) who went 172 days. He didn't lose any weight so some of us think he cheated. That guy could make some mean ravioli. We would keep a scoreboard on the back wall of the church.
I didn't say I hadn't heard of extended fasts--I just haven't heard of anyone dying from it. 172 days? Hmmmm...I'm thinking someone was cheating and having food on the sly.
Personally, I think having a fasting contest seems to go against the whole biblical concept, IMO.
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Like I said, I knew I'd get yelled at, but I'm just saying it sounds like something a pentecostal would do. And I actually CAN cite a number of extreme cases of fasting I've been familiar with.
I didn't yell at you. Did you see any caps?
I've never heard of the type of fasting that you're talking about. "Extreme" fasting in my experience is 14-40 days, with 40 being the longest I've ever heard of. Those fasts were done carefully and prayerfully, and not in competition with other believers.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Case in point.... a couple recently were charged because their child died from "spanking". The couple said they were following the program outlined by Michael and Debi Pearl. The Pearls are definitely not Pentecostal. There are many other cases such as this. Very zealous people who are misguided, and end up causing catastrophes in the name of the Lord.
I don't think that's connected, though. There are plenty of nutcases the beat their children, inside and outside of Christianity. But there aren't many who fast.
Any chance a mainstream Christian would have done this?
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