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Old 03-18-2010, 02:29 PM
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Already quoted the scripture. Not my fault you don't like it.
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(Matthew 19:9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


The man's in adultery according to the book. End of discussion.
It's adultery. So? Nobody (well, almost nobody) says it was not. The question is whether the sin can be forgiven and the sinner restored (a new creature!) enough to get his old job back.
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Thumper, I have to ask this considering your apparent viewpoint, and so I bring up an extreme example: Would the man or woman who is in a short lived marriage (less then a year), divorces, remarries and spends the next 25-30 years with their second spouse complete with kids be required to leave their current spouse and remarry their first?

(And while it is extreme I also know of a few specific instances of this exact thing happening.)
If he was married in church the first time I would answer yes.
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:31 PM
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You mean this?



It's adultery. So? Nobody (well, almost nobody) says it was not. The question is whether the sin can be forgiven and the sinner restored (a new creature!) enough to get his old job back.
Oh, never mind. He's still in adultery. OK, I missed that part. So, he'd have to, uh, what, divorce the new wife, and remarry the first wife?
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It's adultery. So? Nobody (well, almost nobody) says it was not. The question is whether the sin can be forgiven and the sinner restored (a new creature!) enough to get his old job back.
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Right but as long as he is married to the new one he is still in adultery. and has not repented (turned away from)
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Oh, never mind. He's still in adultery. OK, I missed that part. So, he'd have to, uh, what, divorce the new wife, and remarry the first wife?
Apparently, even if it has been 25 to 30 (and multiple kids) later.
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I think the post said it's been a year and a half and that he's remarried and repentant. Should his elders feel led to restore him completely, do you believe it should take more time? If so, how much longer?
Again, I think it's that church's business.

I, personally, would not be comfortable with it after a year and a half. In our current church culture, a pastor has certain responsibilities, and I don't think he'd be in the place to fulfill those responsibilities so soon.

This is what the Bible says:

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So an elder must be a man whose life is above reproach. He must be faithful to his wife. He must exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach.

Maybe it's up to each congregation to decide how to apply the above requirements?
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Oh, never mind. He's still in adultery. OK, I missed that part. So, he'd have to, uh, what, divorce the new wife, and remarry the first wife?
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If he was married in church the first time I would answer yes.
Oh. If he was married in church the first time. Got it.

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Oh, never mind. He's still in adultery. OK, I missed that part. So, he'd have to, uh, what, divorce the new wife, and remarry the first wife?
No need to get back together with his first to be right with God just end the adulterous affair and stay single.
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If he was married in church the first time I would answer yes.
So in essence you'd destroy a loving family who had sinned early on and been forgiven to restore a short lived loveless marriage?

Ladies and gentelman of the jury, I'd like to present to the prosecution Exhibit A, The Leaven of the Pharisees.
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So in essence you'd destroy a loving family who had sinned early on and been forgiven to restore a short lived loveless marriage?

Ladies and gentelman of the jury, I'd like to present to the prosecution Exhibit A, The Leaven of the Pharisees.
You don't like his scripture, either?
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