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Repentance 33 91.67%
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:35 PM
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Am I wrong ... look below....


I don't see baptism listed here. I show repentance = forgiveness. To say otherwise is a stretch.


Obviously we'll disagree on this. I don't see it as first this, then this, then this. I've seen people get the HG without first being baptized. That really throws your steps off!
I agree and I have seen people receive the HG before baptism. And yes, that means that they did believe and would have to have repented. Yet still, the Bible says you receive remission (forgiveness) after you repent and are baptized. You can't get around that one either. It's in the Word.
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You people are funny!
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Forgiveness occurs when we repent.
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If forgiveness doesn't happen until baptism, what is the point of repenting before baptism?
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If forgiveness doesn't happen until baptism, what is the point of repenting before baptism?

Please do not, I repeat, DO NOT, bring logic into this discussion. We're stickin' with the bible here, sister!
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Please do not, I repeat, DO NOT, bring logic into this discussion. We're stickin' with the bible here, sister!
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If forgiveness doesn't happen until baptism, what is the point of repenting before baptism?
It is to earnestly acknowledge our sins are our own and to have a full sense of our sins and to be ready to own it. We are taking the whole blame upon ourselves and not laying them to the charge of any man or God.

In a word - acknowledgment. That is key.
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It is to earnestly acknowledge our sins are our own and to have a full sense of our sins and to be ready to own it. We are taking the whole blame upon ourselves and not laying them to the charge of any man or God.

In a word - acknowledgment. That is key.

Repentance is acknowledgement??
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Repentance is acknowledgement??
Acknowledging that we have sinned and confessing those sins. Acknowledging that our sins are our own and no one else is to blame. It's the right thing to do.
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Acknowledging that we have sinned and confessing those sins. Acknowledging that our sins are our own and no one else is to blame. It's the right thing to do.

But the meaning of the word "repentance" is "To Turn". I don't see it having anything to do with acknowledgement and/or confessing.
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