The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save - Page 2

Pressing-On · #11 03-30-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I believe this to be false. Obviously Christs death on the cross was the BASIS for our salvation. But Paul never thought anyone would try to segment his teachings like we see today.

How does this doctrine that the cross only saves play out? I suppose that all one must do is believe Christ died on the cross for us.

Paul himself added somethings to this.

8: But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:8-12

Was Paul a heretic? He said we must CONFESS the Lord Jesus in order to be saved!

He also said we must CALL ON HIS NAME in order to be saved!

Acts 2 also references the same: Acts 2:21 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Peter goes on to explain to them what has just happened. In the ensuing verses he goes over the death, burial, resurrection and Holy Ghost infilling - Acts 2:33 "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear."

There is more involved in "calling on His name". There is more involved than just saying that His death on the Cross "alone" is all we need to be saved.

You are right - His death is the basis. Peter explains to them what is involved and what is meant by "calling on His name".

Jeffrey · #12 03-30-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Acts 2 also references the same: Acts 2:21 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Peter goes on to explain to them what has just happened. In the ensuing verses he goes over the death, burial, resurrection and Holy Ghost infilling - Acts 2:33 "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear."

There is more involved in "calling on His name". There is more involved than just saying that His death on the Cross "alone" is all we need to be saved.

You are right - His death is the basis. Peter explains to them what is involved and what is meant by "calling on His name".

Stick to the context, which in these verses is Romans, not Acts. Let's not make Paul speak for Luke.

In no way, in any capacity is Paul articulating a doctrine of anything other than salvation by faith, which has been since Abraham (before even the law). Your treatment of Acts 2 is can be addressed another time.

Pressing-On · #13 03-30-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Stick to the context, which in these verses is Romans, not Acts. Let's not make Paul speak for Luke.

In no way, in any capacity is Paul articulating a doctrine of anything other than salvation by faith, which has been since Abraham (before even the law). Your treatment of Acts 2 is can be addressed another time.

Paul is saying the same thing that Peter said, so, I will have to bring that up. You are not going to find anything in the Epistles that doesn't keep spiraling back to the Book of Acts in some way.

Fiyahstarter · #14 03-30-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

How does this doctrine that the cross only saves play out? I suppose that all one must do is believe Christ died on the cross for us.

Could someone please answer Michael's question. I'm a bit curious too.

Sam · #15 03-30-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

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How does this doctrine that the cross only saves play out? I suppose that all one must do is believe Christ died on the cross for us.
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yes

notofworks · #16 03-30-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I suppose that all one must do is believe Christ died on the cross for us.

Beautiful, isn't it?!!

Fiyahstarter · #17 03-30-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

yes

Believe only?

Does the devil believe?

Sam · #18 03-30-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Beautiful, isn't it?!!

like looking at the brass serpent on the pole (ref John 3:14-21)
where Jesus instructed Nicodemus on how to
be born again
be saved
not perish
escape condemnation
receive everlasting life