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Old 04-01-2010, 10:18 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

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PO doesn't believe you receive forgiveness until baptism.

Do you feel you receive forgiveness at repentance or baptism?
I believe forgiveness and remission are the same thing. I do feel we get forgiveness at repentance. The angels rejoice over one soul that repents. But nonetheless I feel baptism is required since it is the fruits meet for repentance, as John the Baptist said. In other words, if it is a repentance in which God sees the obedience to do anything He wills to do, like baptism, then God forgives. But if the alleged repentance is seen by God to sidestep an obedient act of baptism, then God does not forgive.

It's like the fact that God granted Abraham righteousness for his FAITH THAT WORKS. If God knew Abraham would not obey to be circumcised, then the faith Abraham had was not the faith God took to grant Abe righteous. Same with baptism. Otherwise, how can one get Spirit baptism in Acts 10 without forgiveness first?
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