The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save - Page 64

notofworks · #**631** 04-07-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist

hmmm so God changes his mind on what is good for us to eat? Wow, what a God that thinks they are detestable things to eat because HOW HE MADE THEM and then turns right around and says they are ok to eat. Considering that they where considered clean and unclean before "the law". You have a God that is contradictive and can't make up his mind. Nice.

concering genentic code. God has order within order. Which is natural law. The reason God used genetic footprint in the establishing "clean and unclean" animals was because HOW HE DESIGNED BY ORDER and the what was considered clean and unclean was based on genetic patterns. THUS GOD HAD A REASON. Not just throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if it sticks!

You can't be serious. Am I on Candid Camera?? Is someone going to jump out from behind a curtain and say, "Gotcha" and laugh at me for arguing with you about this stuff?

So did God change His mind? I don't know. Maybe it's better to say He "entered a mew phase" or "transitioned in the way He operated as part of an eternal divine plan." Whatever. I'll let you figure that out.

But am I to believe that you do the Guilt Offering, the Sin Offering, Burnt Offering, and that you have a pen full of goats and bulls to use for your sacrifices?

Do you shave? That's forbidden (Lev 19:27). Do you stone women for getting married and bleeding on their wedding night?

I must be on Candid Camera.

notofworks · #**632** 04-07-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

There is a natural outflow of certain actions from a right heart.

You seem to be stressing one thing, while the Legalist stresses the other. It's BOTH.

James 2:14 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Understood. But the Illegalist and I are talking about salvation. And I'm asking, if any of those works fall off, do I lose my salvation? I think I'm hearing from The Illegalist, that I do.

TheLegalist · #**633** 04-07-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Was disobeying "natural law" ever punishable as sin?

Sure but it's a matter of application. Not all sin unto death. For a man to dress like a woman and woman like a man was against the nature of God's will for what man was supposed to be like as well as woman. Woman are not to take upon that which God ordained them to do and men as well. For a man not to provide as head it would be a sin. As he has forsaken his divine duties.
Defiling onesself with food was not a matter of "spiritual" uncleaness but of the flesh. God sees obedience to do what is best as righteous and not and unrighteous. Whatever action it is. God gave you a body as a blessing and he wants you to take care of it. Thus God gave eating instructions was it a cause of contention to the Gentiles who where coming to God? No! As it directly is not a "spiritual matter" of defling but a physical matter. Thus it is way down on the list still has meaning. Heavier matters must be addressed first then as God leads and they grow they should understand the others aspects of God's will as they study the his Word.

KWSS1976 · #**634** 04-07-2010, 11:52 AM

NOW you can always get rebaptised everytime you sin that away you know your covered...lol.

KWSS1976 · #**635** 04-07-2010, 11:54 AM

Leg.. they all dressed the same back then...so you will have to do better then that....

notofworks · #**636** 04-07-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

NOW you can always get rebaptised everytime you sin that away you know your covered...lol.

Well, recently we discovered that Mizpeh believes that baptism forgives sin. So just to be safe, just in case she's right, I've been baptized 718 times in the last 3 weeks. And just to make sure it actually worked, I was baptized each time by both formulas, so actually it's 1,426 times for 718 sins. My skin is shriveled up like a prune.

mizpeh · #**637** 04-07-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Well, recently we discovered that Mizpeh believes that baptism forgives sin. So just to be safe, just in case she's right, I've been baptized 718 times in the last 3 weeks. And just to make sure it actually worked, I was baptized each time by both formulas, so actually it's 1,426 times for 718 sins. My skin is shriveled up like a prune.

That's right...make fun of what I believe without ever engaging what I actually wrote and then further proceed to misrepresent what I said!

KWSS1976 · #**638** 04-07-2010, 12:00 PM

Well if one says baptism forgives sin...then everytime you sin you must get rebaptised so you can get the sin removed...If one was to say that...

notofworks · #**639** 04-07-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

That's right...make fun of what I believe without ever engaging what I actually wrote and then further proceed to misrepresent what I said!

I did engage what you wrote! You said that baptism forgives sins! But you gotta admit that my "prune" line was pretty funny!

notofworks · #**640** 04-07-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Well if one says baptism forgives sin...then everytime you sin you must get rebaptised so you can get the sin removed...If one was to say that...

Yesterday was rough. I said some bad stuff on the freeway so we went through quite a bit of water. By bill's gonna be brutal this month.