Hebrews 1:1-3 KJVGod, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, (2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (3) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Of course God is a "person".
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ὑπόστασις
hupostasis
hoop-os'-tas-is
From a compound of G5259 and G2476; a setting under (support), that is, (figuratively) concretely essence, or abstractly assurance (objectively or subjectively): - confidence, confident, person, substance.
The KJV translators got it wrong on this one, though. Technically, the Greek word hypostasis, which person is translated from, originally meant "underlying substance". Only later in theology did hypostasis come to be understood as person.
That does not mean that God ISN'T a person. He's just not a human person. I think the term is valid beyond an anthropological context. We relate to God as we would relate to a person. He is a rational, moral being.
The KJV translators got it wrong on this one, though. Technically, the Greek word hypostasis, which person is translated from, originally meant "underlying substance". Only later in theology did hypostasis come to be understood as person.
That does not mean that God ISN'T a person. He's just not a human person. I think the term is valid beyond an anthropological context. We relate to God as we would relate to a person. He is a rational, moral being.
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Animal, mineral, vegetable or person? I choose person. God is a He, not an It. God is a who. God thinks. God rationalizes. God is self aware. Angels are too. I conclude God, angels and man, who are all spiritual beings, are persons. They can personally relate to others.
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
The KJV translators got it wrong on this one, though. Technically, the Greek word hypostasis, which person is translated from, originally meant "underlying substance". Only later in theology did hypostasis come to be understood as person.
That does not mean that God ISN'T a person. He's just not a human person. I think the term is valid beyond an anthropological context. We relate to God as we would relate to a person. He is a rational, moral being.
There are only 2 words used to translate as Person in the KJV.
One is the above, the other is prosopon, which is the forerunner of the word Persona, which is where we get person from. In the greek though it often means presence. Has been translated face. The same word and it's Hebrew counterpart are used of God.
Job 13:8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
He wasn't really a "bush" nor a "donkey," technically. There was a "fire" in the bush that Moses saw and the fire did not consume the bush. That is why Moses turned aside to have a look.
The donkey spoke, apparently miraculously and complained of Balaam hitting him. Then the donkey pointed out the Angel of the Lord who was poised to strike them both down.
Absolutely. God was not a bush or a donkey.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
No, Electricity is generated Power. You can't see it but like the wind, you can see how dangerous it is, if unharnessed.
No one could see God and live. Moses put on a veil. Jesus was the
veil between God and men. The Spirit of God (unharnessed) scared
the Israelites. Thunder, lightning, wind. God knew how to get Moses
attention and talk to Him. Moses was a prepared vessel.
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Jesus was not the veil. The veil hides. Jesus revealed
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Hmmm.... well, this much I know. God is a noun. A personal one!
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