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Old 04-15-2010, 12:20 PM
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Hmmm.... well, this much I know. God is a noun. A personal one!
Technically, "God" is a proper noun.

"A proper noun has two distinctive features: 1) it will name a specific [usually a one-of-a-kind] item, and 2) it will begin with a capital letter no matter where it occurs in a sentence."

From "Grammar Bytes." http://www.chompchomp.com/terms/propernoun.htm
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Some people seem to think a Spirit cannot be a person since they think a person is human alone. But that is not the case. I already quoted Hebrews 1 that refers to God as a person. The Son was the express image of God's person. God is a Spirit, yes. But He is a person as well. Spirit and person are not contradictory. They are simply different from one another altogether. His single person has eternally been Spirit, but that same person took upon Himself humanity and manifested as Son of God as well. The same person is both eternal God and Son of God.

The best way I can describe it is like saying if I was God, I can turn myself into a chair and a table at the same time, and my single person belongs to both the table and chair, but the table is not the chair. They're both me, though.

I think it is a mistake to call God the Father a person because He is so much more than a human person, that the only way to properly describe Him is to call Him God. Calling God a person does not help understand Father, Son and Holy Ghost, since most people equate person with body, will, image, mind etc.
Things that the Son has that the Father doesn't. I guess it depends on your definition of person as to wether we can call God a person or not, not withstanding Hebrews 1. How do you define person?
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I think it is a mistake to call God the Father a person because He is so much more than a human person, that the only way to properly describe Him is to call Him God. Calling God a person does not help understand Father, Son and Holy Ghost, since most people equate person with body, will, image, mind etc.
Things that the Son has that the Father doesn't. I guess it depends on your definition of person as to wether we can call God a person or not, not withstanding Hebrews 1. How do you define person?
The poll asks "Is God a person", not "Is God a human person".

I ask again, for those that think the word person can only mean a human being, do you really believe Trinitarainism teaches three human persons?
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I think it is a mistake to call God the Father a person because He is so much more than a human person,
But that is the point. Why assume PERSON means HUMAN PERSON?

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that the only way to properly describe Him is to call Him God. Calling God a person does not help understand Father, Son and Holy Ghost, since most people equate person with body, will, image, mind etc.
Things that the Son has that the Father doesn't. I guess it depends on your definition of person as to wether we can call God a person or not, not withstanding Hebrews 1. How do you define person?
I think this is missing the issue. The issue is that the bible called God a person. That's all. We cannot discard the biblical terminology, but rather correct our faulty terminology.
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Re: Is God a person?

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The question is kinda like asking if God is One Person or Zero Persons. What if, instead, it was:
How many Persons are there in the Godhead? 0, 1, 2, or 3?

How would the Oneness camp answer that one?
That was in another thread. Meant for here. I think.
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Re: Is God a person?

At least on this forum, this poll shows 9 out of 16 pollsters don't understand the Trinity, because they don't understand what is meant by a person
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The poll asks "Is God a person", not "Is God a human person".

I ask again, for those that think the word person can only mean a human being, do you really believe Trinitarainism teaches three human persons?
most trinitarians believe there will be 3 bodies in heaven. So yes, I do think that most people equate with three human persons in the trinity.
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But that is the point. Why assume PERSON means HUMAN PERSON?
I think this is missing the issue. The issue is that the bible called God a person. That's all. We cannot discard the biblical terminology, but rather correct our faulty terminology.
I asked you, how do you define person?

Other translations of hebrews 1:3 use the word "substance" or "nature". Better words than the kjv use of the word person.
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At least on this forum, this poll shows 9 out of 16 pollsters don't understand the Trinity, because they don't understand what is meant by a person
can you define person as understood by some trinitarians. Like I said before, most trinitarians believe they will see three bodies in heaven.
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most trinitarians believe there will be 3 bodies in heaven. So yes, I do think that most people equate with three human persons in the trinity.
There might be some Trinitarians that think like that, but you could not prove most do.

But that just proves my point then. Most OPs don't have a clue what the Trinity is or what is meant by "person"
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