Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by POWERUP
I can honestly say that I will probally get blasted for posting this video...........but...I still enjoy the presence of God without all the flipping and flopping in the floor!!!!!!!!!!
Shoot me later..........
Ran across it on youtube. Thought I would share it.
Hmmmmmmm.....let's see....this is right out of the book of Acts...right? I mean we DO have scripture for this right? I mean we do have an example of this happening in scripture...right?
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by Sam
Remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M
Sam, I have seen this before of course, but I have a range of emotions about this stuff. Right now it angers me to watch it. Mass manipulation is only funny for those doing the manipulating.
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
I have only read a couple of posts on this thread. I steer clear of this subject because while I have pretty strong feelings about the subject I don't question the sincerity of people who worship that way. I do believe the vast majority of them are doing it unto the Lord even if what they are doing is not neccessarily in the Bible and is Pentecostal culture / tradition.
I believe there is a happy medium or moderation in the area of our emotions. Some people never open their hearts and emotions to the presence of God and miss enjoying the presence of God. Others go to the other extreme and believe people can't have a close relationship with God without jerking and twitching and running the aisles.
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have only read a couple of posts on this thread. I steer clear of this subject because while I have pretty strong feelings about the subject I don't question the sincerity of people who worship that way. I do believe the vast majority of them are doing it unto the Lord even if what they are doing is not neccessarily in the Bible and is Pentecostal culture / tradition.
I believe there is a happy medium or moderation in the area of our emotions. Some people never open their hearts and emotions to the presence of God and miss enjoying the presence of God. Others go to the other extreme and believe people can't have a close relationship with God without jerking and twitching and running the aisles.
Good points CC1. I've always felt "overwhelmed" by the presence of the Spirit of God. The last thing I feel like doing is putting on some sort of display that will detract the focus from His presence.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Good points CC1. I've always felt "overwhelmed" by the presence of the Spirit of God. The last thing I feel like doing is putting on some sort of display that will detract the focus from His presence.
Now I have a question. I don't want this to be offensive or antagonistic. Just a question. How does God look at individuals that are in the "flesh" in their "worship?" Does He approve of it and does He smile on the actions of those individuals?
I have seen in my time, in the church, those persons who were in the flesh. How did I know? God does not tear down instruments, bust out sheetrock and otherwise run over people. He never causes someone to be injured worshipping Him! If God would answer this question, verbally, what would His answer to us be?
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Now I have a question. I don't want this to be offensive or antagonistic. Just a question. How does God look at individuals that are in the "flesh" in their "worship?" Does He approve of it and does He smile on the actions of those individuals?
I have seen in my time, in the church, those persons who were in the flesh. How did I know? God does not tear down instruments, bust out sheetrock and otherwise run over people. He never causes someone to be injured worshipping Him! If God would answer this question, verbally, what would His answer to us be?
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You should ask the folks who ghost-write all those billboards, signed by God. They'll know what God would say.
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
I don't really have a problem with some physical worship, or even dancing. I would rather like to be in a service such as that up until about the 1 minute mark. I don't mind some outward expression. I'm not a very "outward" person, though I have had an experience where I was moved upon by the Spirit to dance, and it to this day was the most yeilded to the Spirit of God I ever was. It was absolutely amazing, but it was in order, I would imagine something akin to David dancing before the Lord.
As for people throwing themselves on the ground rolling and waving body parts all over the place, I'm not comfortable with that at all, and would uite frankly rather be at home. I like emotional, involved worship, but it should be done in order. In my opinion order could be defined as appearing to be in your right mind to others who are present-especially visitors.
For example if I clap, raise my voice in praise or song, or even dance I could do so in my right mind, and appear to be in my right mind to most (depending on the dance-if I go into break dancing, or throw myself on the floor, I doubt anyone would think that was in order-no doubt there is a line that can be crossed).
However, if Iam screeching at the top of my lungs, running around the church at full speed (especially to trip or run into a wall), walk on pews like balance beams, etc. I doubt anyone (especially visitors) would think I was sane. And I personally don't think that God gets glory from foolishness.
And the sad thing is that many times those who are the most "active" are the least consecrated. Not always, but many times.
Basically i don't think we have to be sticks in the mud, but neither do we have to act the way that some people do. and I really don't think that is "woshipping" God.
Hey, if you want to worship God, go love your neighbor, love the sinner, find someone in need and ease their burden. Just my two cents.
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Originally Posted by Timmy
You should ask the folks who ghost-write all those billboards, signed by God. They'll know what God would say.
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