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Originally Posted by KWSS1976
I see I made the mix..lol I look at it like this I pay real close attention when I go to church and see if whats going on around me lines up with the bible....most of the time it does not...tongues,baptism,healings...etc,etc,etc...I mean come on I can understand having faith and all...But don't come to church and say I got my healing of cancer...then 6 months down the line the cancer comes back and you die from it...I think sometimes we have alittle to much faith and it comes around to bite us....I don't think the world was created with a bigbang.....I just think people have to much faith sometimes and it fails them....I am not saying there is not a God or Jesus his son. I mean we have proof of cities that exsisted in the bible days and these cities are in the bible...I am just of the opinion that God is not messing around with us anymore..I mean think about it...why would someone have so much faith that they state God healed them when he really did not...And we can go to the Pentecostal Experience thing that happened on that day...but then again thats one of those things that is happening in the church unlike it did in the bible..Come on think about it we have the bible to learn from right...Why fabricate new ways to "Get God to move" so to speak...Alot of times in the book things were done not for us to copy..It had it's reasons for happening right then and there and was not intened for repeating.....
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Originally Posted by mfblume
No disrespect towards you intended, but I have seen genuine miracles, and any time I saw them were instances after which I had to get as far away from this reasoning you portray as I can.
A lady in our church was requiring kidney surgery, and she was healed. She went to the doctor and was told her kidney is spontaneously regenerating itself, and kidneys do not HEAL. He could not explain it and she told him it was God. The doctor gave her a high-five.
We prayed for another sister in front of the congregation who had a large lump on her side that the physicians said they could not remove by operation. As we prayed it instantly disappeared.
We're seeing more and more this.
And again, I have to be as far away from your reasoning as I can get in order to see these things. There will always be forgeries and counterfeits of the true, but they do not mean real miracles are not occurring.
My thoughts, anyway.
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I am immediately reminded of N. Urshan's message at General Conference one year. He had a number of different people come up and testify as to what God had done in their lives.
One was a brother who had been involved in witchcraft and the occult. He had gone to Urshan's church to deliberately try and "hex" Bro. Urshan and ended up being delivered and saved.
Another was Bro. Urshan's daughter. She testified how that the cancer she was suffering from had "passed right through" her and that she was now miraculously healed.
The very next General Conference (the first one to be held in St. Louis), on the "General Superintendent's night," (just about 1 year later - to the very day) the G.S. wasn't able to be there because he was at the bedside of his daughter who was dying of cancer. The same daughter who had testified just one year earlier. Jesse Williams preached in his stead.
I'm not looking to fault anyone here. I knew Bro. Urshan, his daughter who passed away and her husband. All of them have shown me much kindness and it was with a very heavy heart that I received the news of her passing.
I am happy for everyone who is sick and gets better. However, I am mindful that this person (and myself included!) still have an appointment with death (
Hebrews 9:27-28).
I have never witnessed a miracle of healing myself, even though I have had a cardiologist literally throw herself on me in joy over my own "miracle." Claims of the miraculous are exciting to hear, but that miracle only postpones the inevitable by a little bit. The greater miracle is the hope we have at the end.
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