Timmy's Religion - Page 4

Dedicated Mind · #31 04-20-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Well, since you asked me to answer as well,....I'll answer in red with two ••'s.

••DedicatedMind, before you want to throw me off the forum, just remember that every time one of the right-wingers on the forum starts the Obama and Pelosi bashing, I'm the first one to come to their defense! You gotta like me for that!!

NOW, I am not on a witchhunt, I just wanted to know where you and several others stood on the issues I asked because I was being confused by some of the posts. I appreciate your input on the forum as well as Timmy and Michlow. KWS is another story, maybe its his avatar. Thanks for defending Obama and Pelosi, progressives have to stick together. God bless you NOW.

notofworks · #32 04-20-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

NOW, I am not on a witchhunt, I just wanted to know where you and several others stood on the issues I asked because I was being confused by some of the posts. I appreciate your input on the forum as well as Timmy and Michlow. KWS is another story, maybe its his avatar. Thanks for defending Obama and Pelosi, progressives have to stick together. God bless you NOW.

And blessings to you, DM.

My spiritual road may be vastly different than many here, but my passion for the mission of Jesus Christ, I would hope, is obvious.

I like KWSS, who is relentless in his pursuit of the "tongues issue". A lot of people on the forum are dismissive of him, but I think he raises a great question (hundreds of times

) and never really gets a good answer. However, I asked for his address to send him a Christmas card and he refused, so I'm a little bitter about that!

And for the record, I'm mostly conservative, although a weird one. I don't support gun rights, I love animal rights, and I can't stand Rush Limbaugh. But I believe in supporting and praying for our leaders, regardless of their political position!

KWSS1976 · #33 04-20-2010, 03:09 PM

I just tell it like I see it...You guys can suger coat it all ya want to...lol
I have been told by my wife on many ocassions that I am to blunt..but you are only hurting yourself suger caoting things.....

pelathais · #34 04-20-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

I just tell it like I see it...You guys can suger coat it all ya want to...lol
I have been told by my wife on many ocassions that I am to blunt..but you are only hurting yourself suger caoting things.....

Who's sugar coating what, KWSS? This seems to be a rather frank discussion to me; but then again I am rather naive at times. Help me out...?

KWSS1976 · #35 04-20-2010, 03:15 PM

Well pel I was refering to what N.O.W stated in his post above...It was mostly in response to the tongues thing...thats all

mfblume · #36 04-20-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

I am immediately reminded of N. Urshan's message at General Conference one year. He had a number of different people come up and testify as to what God had done in their lives.

One was a brother who had been involved in witchcraft and the occult. He had gone to Urshan's church to deliberately try and "hex" Bro. Urshan and ended up being delivered and saved.

Another was Bro. Urshan's daughter. She testified how that the cancer she was suffering from had "passed right through" her and that she was now miraculously healed.

The very next General Conference (the first one to be held in St. Louis), on the "General Superintendent's night," (just about 1 year later - to the very day) the G.S. wasn't able to be there because he was at the bedside of his daughter who was dying of cancer. The same daughter who had testified just one year earlier. Jesse Williams preached in his stead.

I'm not looking to fault anyone here. I knew Bro. Urshan, his daughter who passed away and her husband. All of them have shown me much kindness and it was with a very heavy heart that I received the news of her passing.

I am happy for everyone who is sick and gets better. However, I am mindful that this person (and myself included!) still have an appointment with death (Hebrews 9:27-28).

I have never witnessed a miracle of healing myself, even though I have had a cardiologist literally throw herself on me in joy over my own "miracle." Claims of the miraculous are exciting to hear, but that miracle only postpones the inevitable by a little bit. The greater miracle is the hope we have at the end.

I agree the greatest miracle is salvation. But God loves us so much that He does want to heal and give us miracles aside from salvation. And we need to believe Him for them. And He told us we have to believe doubting nothing, and to believe it shall occur after the easy part of praying is done.

KWSS1976 · #37 04-20-2010, 03:26 PM

But what happens when you do all that praying and it does not happen healing or anything else for that matter...Do we have a biblical instance of someones prayers not getting answered....

pelathais · #38 04-20-2010, 03:28 PM

You didn't really ask me... and I know it's because you really don't care about my feelings and such; but anyhoo...

"Timmy has such a big influence on this forum, I was curious to know what Timmy actually believes.

Do you believe in God?

YES!

Do you believe the bible is the inspired, infallible word of God?

"Inspired?"

YES!

"Infallible?"

There are differing ways in which "infallibility" is expressed. There is, for example, the doctrine of Plenary Verbal Inspiration. This means literally: Full word-by-word inspiration. I don't hold to that.

Do you believe in the oneness of God?

YES! - - But again, there are differing views of "Oneness." My own is the "correct" view.

Do you believe acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation?

No. Acts 2:21 expresses the hope and instruction for individual salvation. Acts 2:38 encapsulates the rites of "initiation" into the new life and the empowerment available to sustain that life.

Do you believe in speaking in tongues?

I have never witnessed Acts 2:4-20 occurring at any time in my life nor have I ever experienced this, so "No" if "Acts 2:4" is what you're after. On the other hand, Paul mentions "unknown tongues" and "tongues of angels" in his letter to the Corinthians. I know of no way to substantiate just what that refers to - however I have had deep Spiritual encounters where I spoke "in an unknown tongue."

Are you a one stepper or three stepper?

Acts 2:21 again. One Stepper all the way. Jesus, and Jesus only saves us; and not we ourselves. It is the gift of God, not of works, lest any should boast.

I would like to ask these questions of KWS and not of works also.

Failure to respond to these questions means revoking my vote for Timmy as GS."

deadeye · #39 04-20-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I knew this would happen if I answered. I'll tell you what, deadeye, let's you and I have a "feeding the hungry", or "comfort the hurting", or "showing mercy to the fallen", or "loving the broken", "or visiting the prisoner", contest and see who wins!

When we're finished, we'll read Matthew 25 and see who's ready for judgment!

I love you, Deadeye.

I do not believe that Matt 25 applies to the church at all....

KWSS1976 · #40 04-20-2010, 03:39 PM

Do you believe in God?

yes

Do you believe the bible is the inspired, infallible word of God?

NO...Man wrote it and I really don't think it was God inspired....

Do you believe in the oneness of God?

YES!

Do you believe acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation?

No.

Do you believe in speaking in tongues?

NO... mainly cause it is not done as it was done in the bible...

Are you a one stepper or three stepper?

One Stepper.....After all it's would be kind of hard to sing Amazing Grace and be a 3 stepper cause Grace does not save you according to them...After all he died on the cross to save us of our sins...He did not die on the cross so we can jump through hoops and hurdels to be saved of our sins....