The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Pressing-On, you can't use this verse. You can't use this verse. This one is in OUR playbook!! Look what it says..."Salvation to everyone who believes with a personal trust"!!!

Of course, this is just one of dozens of correlating statements in the New Testament.

I have no idea why I am still commenting on this thread. MFBlume said everything that could be said! LOL!

But, I will humor you here.

Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel (good news) of Christ; for it is God's power working unto salvation (for deliverance from eternal death) to every one who believes with a personal trust and a confident surrender and firm reliance, to the Jew first and also to the Greek," - (Amplified)

Romans 10:10 "For with the heart man believeth (personal trust) unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made (confident surrender) unto salvation."

Ooops, gotta little action going on here and it's not just "belief". We have some "confession" which is a "confident surrender". Who would have thunk it?! LOL!

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I have no idea why I am still commenting on this thread. MFBlume said everything that could be said! LOL!

But, I will humor you here.

Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel (good news) of Christ; for it is God's power working unto salvation (for deliverance from eternal death) to every one who believes with a personal trust and a confident surrender and firm reliance, to the Jew first and also to the Greek," - (Amplified)

Romans 10:10 "For with the heart man believeth (personal trust) unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made (confident surrender) unto salvation."


Ooops, gotta little action going on here and it's not just "belief". We have some "confession" which is a "confident surrender". Who would have thunk it?! LOL!

First, where in God's name did you get your paranthetical references from?

Second, it's quite known that obedience and faith are inseparable. They ride the train together. However, the engine that fuels the movement is faith. This is where regeneration is, where life is, where the whole thing happens. Faith does obey. Obey what? The teachings and commands of Jesus. But we must be careful to venture into triumphalism. Because you and I both are screwed if that's the case

I have to catch-up on this thread.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

First, where in God's name did you get your paranthetical references from?

Second, it's quite known that obedience and faith are inseparable. They ride the train together. However, the engine that fuels the movement is faith. This is where regeneration is, where life is, where the whole thing happens. Faith does obey. Obey what? The teachings and commands of Jesus. But we must be careful to venture into triumphalism. Because you and I both are screwed if that's the case

I have to catch-up on this thread.

Nice wording, Jeffrey! LOL!

I gave my paranthetical reference - Amplified Version. I commented that I liked how it was worded. Seems to go well with Romans 10:10.

They certainly do ride the train together - obedience and faith!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Mike, I had a long, complicated, educated, and convincing rebuttal to this that would have instantly converted you to a one-stepper, or even a zero-stepper like me. But when I pushed "submit" I had disconnected and lost it. My brilliance is lost in the wind somewhere in techno-outer space.

I'll have to try again.

Must not have been God's will. lolololol (He would not want you to spread error). j/k

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Nice wording, Jeffrey! LOL!

I gave my paranthetical reference - Amplified Version. I commented that I liked how it was worded. Seems to go well with Romans 10:10.

They certainly do ride the train together - obedience and faith!

Your first sentence, combined with what was highlighted in Jeffrey's post, made me fall outta my chair and hit the floor hard, laughing. That's seriously funny. But give Jeffrey a break...he needs a bar of soap once in a while.

But he's right!!! And I'm not a fan of the "Amplified Bible". All those additions are basically commentary and not reliable as actual text.

Plus, The "Amplified" was done by a woman, and you can't trust these woman drivers! (it's a joke, folks)

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

First, where in God's name did you get your paranthetical references from?

Second, it's quite known that obedience and faith are inseparable. They ride the train together. However, the engine that fuels the movement is faith. This is where regeneration is, where life is, where the whole thing happens. Faith does obey. Obey what? The teachings and commands of Jesus. But we must be careful to venture into triumphalism. Because you and I both are screwed if that's the case

I have to catch-up on this thread.

I agree with what you said, Jeffery. Faith and works are inseparable and faith is the real kicker, though. It's just that while some folks seem to be trying to assure everyone they not lose sight of the kicker in faith, the others (like me) are trying to ensure everyone else does not lose sight of it is only FAITH THAT WORKS, though, while not saying the works save in and of themselves.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Your first sentence, combined with what was highlighted in Jeffrey's post, made me fall outta my chair and hit the floor hard, laughing. That's seriously funny. But give Jeffrey a break...he needs a bar of soap once in a while.

But he's right!!! And I'm not a fan of the "Amplified Bible". All those additions are basically commentary and not reliable as actual text.

Plus, The "Amplified" was done by a woman, and you can't trust these woman drivers! (it's a joke, folks)

That is not altogether true. The amplified uses ALL THE DEFINITIONS for the terms in the parentheses. They're not commentary.

Multiple English word equivalents to each key Hebrew and Greek word clarify and amplify meanings that may otherwise have been concealed by the traditional translation method.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Must not have been God's will. lolololol (He would not want you to spread error). j/k

Actually, I thought it was the devil because he doesn't want you seeing the truth of grace! Then you'd be an educated, well-studied one-stepper!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Your first sentence, combined with what was highlighted in Jeffrey's post, made me fall outta my chair and hit the floor hard, laughing. That's seriously funny. But give Jeffrey a break...he needs a bar of soap once in a while.

Yeah, I have a nice bar of soap that we could use on Jeffery. You hold him down and I will administer the soap!

But he's right!!! And I'm not a fan of the "Amplified Bible". All those additions are basically commentary and not reliable as actual text.

Not actually a big fan of the Amplified, but I do like some things that are written. I guess I mean that I use it for a reference, but not a daily reading. The stuff in parenthesis gives me a headache after a while. LOL!

Found an error in the NLT the other day. A really stupid error as the verse contradicted what was written above and below.

Plus, The "Amplified" was done by a woman, and you can't trust these woman drivers! (it's a joke, folks)

My husband would agree with you. LOL! If I ask him if I can drive, he will say, "Am I getting in this vehicle?" LOL! Guess that means that I don't get to drive, huh? LOL!

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yeah, I have a nice bar of soap that we could use on Jeffery. You hold him down and I will administer the soap!


Not actually a big fan of the Amplified, but I do like some things that are written. I guess I mean that I use it for a reference, but not a daily reading. The stuff in parenthesis gives me a headache after a while. LOL!

Found an error in the NLT the other day. A really stupid error as the verse contradicted what was written above and below.


My husband would agree with you. LOL! If I ask him if I can drive, he will say, "Am I getting in this vehicle?" LOL! Guess that means that I don't get to drive, huh? LOL!

An error in the NLT??? Thou blasphemeth!!! Where? I actually have a $400 Thompson Chain KJV that has a print error in it.