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Originally Posted by mfblume
Oh, ok. Just checking.
I agree totally so far.
Agreed. It was speaking of a veil.
Agreed. but this is speaking about entirely removing the hair or entirely removing it as much as possible. It was not talking about trimming it or suchlike. To shear a sheep meant to cut it off as close as possible to the flesh, for example.
Now this is where I believe you get into error. It was not cutting it, but making it short. Long means long and short mean short. It is not talking about not cutting it at all.
The overall issue is really a veil anyway. Not hair. Why is hair mentioned? Paul listed several arguments as to what would support a woman wearing a veil in prayer or prophesying. If it was hair, he would not make it at times such as when veils could be removed or worn. Paul would have simply said a woman should be covered at all times if it was hair. You cannot put on and remove hair.
So it is not even about hair. But amongst all the arguments he listed, he finally ended with NATURE. NATURE implies the covering he spoke about was unnatural, a veil. But NATURE'S support argument was hair. Even long hair better suits her a woman than a man.
You are correct in your last phrase, however, thsi is not saying a woman cannot cut her hair the least bit.
And this is where my point came in.
If HAVE LONG HAIR in verse 14 is to remain with the same definition it has in verse 15, then a man cannot have "A" while a woman must have "A". "A" must be consistent in definition. Paul did not say it is a shame for a man to have "A", but if a woman has "B" it is a glory to her. HAVE LONG HAIR means the same thing for a man that it means for a woman.
That being the case, if LONG = UNCUT then a man does not "have long hair" if it is three feet down his back and he keeps it trimmed. It is not UNCUT.
See my point?
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Please define long then. If Paul is not speaking about uncut hair, then how must we go about obeying this scripture? We must obey the scripture because:
2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
So, what do you teach? Just curious.