For those that left the UPC...

[Sam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Right, another example of Holy Ghost infilling and no tongues mentioned.

Are you aware of any scripture which teaches that tongues would always accompany Holy Ghost infilling? I realize there is the Acts 10 event, but scripture which teaches that tongues will be the evidence of Holy Ghost infilling.

For many years I heard Acts 2:38 modified to include "with the evidence of speaking in tongues", but of course that's not part of that passage...or any other passage I'm aware of.

I cited examples from Acts chapters 2, 8, 9, 10, and 19 that showed a specific example of people receiving an experience known as the Holy Ghost Baptism, the Spirit coming or falling upon, receiving the Spirit, and being filled with the Spirit. In Acts 2, 10, and 19 tongues are mentioned. In Acts 9 (Saul/Paul) receiving tongues are not mentioned. In Acts 8 tongues are not mentioned but implied by something that accompanied the HGB --something that was not healing, miracles, exorcisms or great joy-- something that probably was tongues.

It's important that we do not read too much into these instances either by the mention of speaking with tongues or the non-mention of speaking with tongues. These examples are sufficient in the minds of some to establish the "initial physical evidence" doctrine (in the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every word be established) and are not sufficient to cause others to come to that conclusion. Let's show some charity to those who may not agree with us here.