Yet, the "mother" you didn't pray to the "grandmother" you, you didn't refer to your other offices as separate entities when talking to other people (No man cometh unto the Father but by me"). Just a couple of examples of differences that make it a bit unclear.
When Jesus was yet on earth, humanity prayed to Deity.
The Son as humanity prayed to His Father (Deity). There
was a time Jesus was not humanity except in the mind of
God. "But the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might re-
ceive the adoption of sons". Gal.4:4,5
Now what was your question!
When Jesus was yet on earth, humanity prayed to Deity.
The Son as humanity prayed to His Father (Deity). There
was a time Jesus was not humanity except in the mind of
God. "But the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might re-
ceive the adoption of sons". Gal.4:4,5
Now what was your question!
Does this mean that Jesus had a part of his spirit that was not God praying to a Father in heaven? Or, was he talking to himself as many claim?
So, when Jesus was on earth, did he encapsulate all of God? If not, what was the rest of Him called, and where was He?
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I don't think we are on the same page.
The questions you are asking have nothing
to do with the point I was making in the
first place.
Falla39
How so? You are saying that any distinction between Father, Son and HG can be explained with "roles" argument. I'm just trying to understand how the examples I mentioned fit into that classification. Not trying to be obtuse.
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When explaining his belief in the trinity to me, a baptist friend of mine that is taking classes at a local bible college explained the trinity as being 3 personalities in 1 God. I thought you all might find that interesting. I would imagine that he got this explanation from one of his professors, but I can't be certain. Either way, I thought it was interesting.
A lot of Trinitarians accept this explanation of the Godhead. The problem begins when you ask them the question, "How many will we see in Heaven?" Then, some of them will switch to a polytheistic view, separating the three personalities into three distinct God-beings. Some will even back this view by using 1 John 5:7. This argument is not sound doctrine, because it is built upon a highly debated text, which in my personal opinion, doesn't belong in the Bible. In fact, most modern translations remove the verse completely.
If the Trinitarian believes that we will only see one God in Heaven, then he is trapped. If there is only one visible God in Heaven, then why argue theology?
Oneness believers get themselves into trouble as well when they say things like, "Jesus is God". If Jesus is God period, then how could God pray to God? The correct statement would be, "Jesus is God manifest in the flesh."
Explaining the distinctions between the Father, Jesus and the Holy Ghost by separating them completely is inconsistent nonsense. If we are to separate because of distinction, then we must take all of God's names, and make them into separate God's. He is known as the God of peace, the God of all comfort, the Lord of Hosts, exc.
Distinctions are necessary when it comes to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Almighty God, through the incarnation, took on a fleshly form, which was something that He had never done before. He took on this role for redemptive purposes. The role of the Holy Ghost was also a role that wasn't fully in operation until the day of Pentecost. The Old Testament reveals that the Spirit would come upon a person, but it would not remain inside of them. David said, "Take not thy Holy Spirit from me." We've all heard it said before, but it's Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration.
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How so? You are saying that any distinction between Father, Son and HG can be explained with "roles" argument. I'm just trying to understand how the examples I mentioned fit into that classification. Not trying to be obtuse.
Simply put I was trying to explain that GOD is NOT a
GOD of mulitiple PERSONALITIES!! I believe that would
be classified as a medical disorder!
Isaiah 9:6,7-
There would be a child born, and a son given, and the
government would rest upon his shoulder. His name would
be called Wonderful,Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Ever-
lasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
The Mighty God (Spirit) IN the SON, the man Christ Jesus.
Deity mediating through Humanity to a lost world.
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Simply put I was trying to explain that GOD is NOT a
GOD of mulitiple PERSONALITIES!! I believe that would
be classified as a medical disorder!
Isaiah 9:6,7-
There would be a child born, and a son given, and the
government would rest upon his shoulder. His name would
be called Wonderful,Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Ever-
lasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
The Mighty God (Spirit) IN the SON, the man Christ Jesus.
Deity mediating through Humanity to a lost world.
Falla39
AMEN ONLY ONE GOD. The whole book of Isaiah is full of references that state this.
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