Stuff Apostolics Like: Holy Magic Hair (sort of) - Page 5

Jeffrey · #41 05-18-2010, 12:21 PM

What is intercessory prayer? To whom does it belong? Living and the dead?

Seems like Jesus would be our model intercessor. In fact, it seems all Christian prayer is intecessory in nature, since it is offered to God through and by Jesus.

Daniel 9 is an OT model. Here, Daniel says that interecessory prayer seeks only to know God's will and see it fulfilled. It seeks God's glory not our own.

I found this:
The following is only a partial list of those for whom we are to offer intercessory prayers: all in authority (1 Timothy 2:2); ministers (Philippians 1:19); the church (Psalm 122:6); friends (Job 42:8); fellow countrymen (Romans 10:1); the sick (James 5:14); enemies (Jeremiah 29:7); those who persecute us (Matthew 5:44); those who forsake us (2 Timothy 4:16); and all men (1 Timothy 2:1).

There is an erroneous idea in contemporary Christianity that those who offer up intercessory prayers are a special class of “super-Christians,” called by God to a specific ministry of intercession. The Bible is clear that all Christians are called to be intercessors.

After looking and searching, I don't find our forefathers of faith prayering to dead saints for intercessory purposes (unless you count Saul's episode with the Witches).

Timmy · #42 05-18-2010, 12:28 PM

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After looking and searching, I don't find our forefathers of faith prayering to dead saints for intercessory purposes (unless you count Saul's episode with the Witches).

The rich man asking Abraham to send Lazarus to his brothers? 'Course, he was already dead, too. And he wasn't a forefather. Never mind.

Sam · #43 05-18-2010, 12:31 PM

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Can you find an example of believers petitioning dead people to tap God on the shoulder on our behalf?[/QUOTE]

I don't know if that question was asked of me or not, but I know of no Scripture in our KJV that speaks of asking the dead to pray with us or for us.

The only verse that I can think of in our KJV where it speaks about praying for the dead is in 2 Maccabees 12:39-45

Sam · #44 05-18-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

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After looking and searching, I don't find our forefathers of faith prayering to dead saints for intercessory purposes (unless you count Saul's episode with the Witches).

I agree

pelathais · #45 05-18-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

What is intercessory prayer? To whom does it belong? Living and the dead?

Seems like Jesus would be our model intercessor. In fact, it seems all Christian prayer is intecessory in nature, since it is offered to God through and by Jesus.

Daniel 9 is an OT model. Here, Daniel says that interecessory prayer seeks only to know God's will and see it fulfilled. It seeks God's glory not our own.

I found this:
The following is only a partial list of those for whom we are to offer intercessory prayers: all in authority (1 Timothy 2:2); ministers (Philippians 1:19); the church (Psalm 122:6); friends (Job 42:8); fellow countrymen (Romans 10:1); the sick (James 5:14); enemies (Jeremiah 29:7); those who persecute us (Matthew 5:44); those who forsake us (2 Timothy 4:16); and all men (1 Timothy 2:1).

There is an erroneous idea in contemporary Christianity that those who offer up intercessory prayers are a special class of “super-Christians,” called by God to a specific ministry of intercession. The Bible is clear that all Christians are called to be intercessors.

After looking and searching, I don't find our forefathers of faith prayering to dead saints for intercessory purposes (unless you count Saul's episode with the Witches).

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I agree

I'm not saying "Do it!"

I'm just saying that it is different than "worship."

Jeffrey · #46 06-07-2010, 02:05 PM

Browsed over to the site and caught up on a few posts. Something has changed over there. SAL has definitely gotten some conservatives riled up. A man named "TR" and another "Anonymous" are on an all-out attack on the blog owner, who appears to be a student @ UGST. One of them said UGST needs to "throw him out on his butt."

Very interesting.

Seems like it all started after the HMH post.

Jeffrey · #47 06-07-2010, 02:09 PM

An Evangelical school recently called for the resignation of a professor that questioned their particular view of Creationism. BUt I've never heard of people calling for the "resignation" of a student! lol Over issues as scandalous as using satire to discuss Pentecostal mores.

*AQuietPlace* · #48 06-07-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Browsed over to the site and caught up on a few posts. Something has changed over there. SAL has definitely gotten some conservatives riled up. A man named "TR" and another "Anonymous" are on an all-out attack on the blog owner, who appears to be a student @ UGST. One of them said UGST needs to "throw him out on his butt."

Very interesting.

Seems like it all started after the HMH post.

What do you mean by 'something has changed over there'?