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Originally Posted by easter
jfrog the links I provided for you don't necessarily agree that the gifts are still ative today.
This is where I differ.The gifts are active and gave to those who love Christ and are still being gave today.
There is a scripture that explains how God is Spirit and why the world can not understand the things of God
1 Corinthians 2:14 For the natural man is not able to take in the things of the Spirit of God: for they seem foolish to him, and he is not able to have knowledge of them, because such knowledge comes only through the Spirit.
Also not everyone who receives the Holy Spirit speak in an unknown tongue right off.I'm still waiting!It's been along time I've been waiting.
You said you didn't know if Christ was just a story.No he existed and you will not find the history of him in Jewish records because they would never acknowledge Jesus but you can find a brief account of him in "The Complete Works Of Josephus" also we know Jesus existed because we know his linage,we know who his mother and Father was.We know where he was born and where he died and even have the name of the Jewish Pharisee who loaned Jesus his tomb.
Also I'm here learning about the Holy Spirit and trying to figure out the difference in how one receives the Holy Spirit.Some receive salvation and the Holy Spirit with tears and Joy and some receive with proof of tongues.
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I'm not sure why you cited the scripture about the World not being able to know the things of God?
As far as what I bolded. I believe you have received the Holy Spirit but there seems to be a difference in receiving the Holy Spirit and receiving the Holy Spirit described in the book of Acts. Just because you have received the Holy Spirit does not mean that you have received the Holy Spirit of Acts. Also, just because you haven't spoken in tongues does not necessarily imply that you haven't received the Holy Spirit described in the book of Acts.
There is something I thought of that I think would be beneficial for you to study. In
Acts 2, Peter cited a prophecy from Joel in order to explain them being filled with the Holy Ghost. Try to study about how the filling of the Holy Ghost in
Acts 2 could fulfill that prophecy.
I believe that Jesus was a real man that lived and died about 2000 years ago. That much is surely real. The story part I was speaking of regarding him is in the details. Details such as God sending him, the virgin birth, the miracles, him being our sacrifice, the resurrection...