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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by Standards
Quote from Bro. Steve Pixler:
“Image and glory are always interconnected, and when humans start stealing glory, they’ll start perverting image.”
Agree or disagree? That is your privilege.
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How can I agree? I don't have a clue what he is trying to say
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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06-30-2010, 12:34 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Any philosophy that glorifies human reasoning above God's Word and His sovereignty IS a worldly philosophy. It doesn't matter if that philosophy has a religious framework.
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How did you reach this conclusion?
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06-30-2010, 12:34 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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I preach Biblical standards. They're not man made.
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I'm sure you do!
But the gospel message is this... Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
As opposed to what many preach... Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues, and live a holy life ( read: according to what is my conviction and interpretation of holy life).
When Peter went to Cornelius' house (Gentile) and preached the Word of God to them, they received the Holy Ghost and Peter commanded them to be baptized. He didn't tell them they had to be circumcised. He didn't tell them they had to submit to all the law of the old covenant. He commanded them to be baptized and left. Later then the judaizers came and caused confusion by requiring that they submit to the old traditions of the law (such as circumcision) and insisted that conformance to their view was required for salvation. The issue was put to rest in Acts 15, but we've sure done a great job of picking it back up.
Biblical standards are things like these:
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." ~ 1 Corinthians 6.9-10
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Instead of studying to make sure what we believe is supported by Scripture, we MUST study the Scripture to see what IT TEACHES... then BELIEVE THAT! 
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2.15 KJV
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06-30-2010, 12:38 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Any philosophy that glorifies human reasoning above God's Word and His sovereignty IS a worldly philosophy. It doesn't matter if that philosophy has a religious framework.
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Fair enough. 
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Instead of studying to make sure what we believe is supported by Scripture, we MUST study the Scripture to see what IT TEACHES... then BELIEVE THAT!
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2.15 KJV
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06-30-2010, 12:43 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
I don't really get it either.
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What's funny is, since everyone knows Pixler is a the right-wing side of things, all the cons are saying, "Oh wow, that's wonderful." None of them can explain it, of course, but they love it! 
That makes sense, though. None of the Con hogwash makes any sense.
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06-30-2010, 12:45 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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How can I agree? I don't have a clue what he is trying to say
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06-30-2010, 12:46 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by pelathais
How did you reach this conclusion?
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Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
To me, this scripture says: If you are following the traditions of men, formed after worldly principles, that would constitute "not" following Christ. "Traditions of men" in that verse refers specifically to Jewish law, which tells me that even something "religious" can be ultimately worldly, and have nothing to do with following Christ.
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Be cautious, lest any man lead you away with philosophies and empty delusions that were reached by following after man's traditions and worldly principles, instead of following Christ.
Following God = Godliness
Following anything else = Worldliness
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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06-30-2010, 12:47 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by Standards
Quote from Bro. Steve Pixler:
“Image and glory are always interconnected, and when humans start stealing glory, they’ll start perverting image.”
Agree or disagree? That is your privilege.
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People can read a lot into the words, image and glory. What definitions is Pixler using for these words?
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06-30-2010, 12:48 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by notofworks
What's funny is, since everyone knows Pixler is a the right-wing side of things, all the cons are saying, "Oh wow, that's wonderful." None of them can explain it, of course, but they love it!
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Really? You might want to re-read the thread so your comments can reflect reality. 
There's a lot of conservative thought that makes a LOT of sense. And most liberal hogwash makes zero sense.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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06-30-2010, 12:52 PM
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Re: Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by notofworks
What's funny is, since everyone knows Pixler is a the right-wing side of things, all the cons are saying, "Oh wow, that's wonderful." None of them can explain it, of course, but they love it!
That makes sense, though. None of the Con hogwash makes any sense. |
Is your brain on today? You may want to borrow one from your 2 year old for a second. Ok, Bro. Pixler is saying that when someone steals the glory from God (i.e. accepting the praise for themselves) they pervert the image of God. I already pointed out some scripture to back this up. Please review my previous post on this discussion.
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Jeremiah chapter 4 and verse 21 KJV
How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
1 Cor. chapter 14 and verse 8 KJV
8For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
Joel chapter 2 and verse 1
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
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