Statement by Bro. Steve Pixler

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I don't buy it.

Attracted to their own image?

It's called selfish indulgence. Fantasies are powerful because they are taboo. Often, homosexuality is began by other "gateway drugs" of promiscuity.

Then there are cases of abuse and molestation, father abandonment that exist. To say they all worship themselves is rather simplistic.

I'm sure there are complicated reasons for why people are led into that sin. However, in many of the more public homosexual personas, you do see an overwhelming aura of egotistical, self-centered, self-conscious, appearance-oriented attitudes.

There are complicated reasons for women being drawn into promiscuity at a young age as well. I've read various publications that reference bad father-daughter relationships as one cause, and that is obviously cause for compassion. Being compassionate doesn't rule out recognizing root causes and attitudes behind sin, and ultimately learning to take responsibility for your own actions. Selfishness means that I must meet my needs now, no matter what the consequences. Self-hatred means that I must meet my needs now, even if it brings emotional and physical destruction later. Self-worship means that I glorify my needs above the needs of others and my negative impact on those around me in the process of meeting those needs. "It's all about me."

Our church has weekly classes for drug/alcohol recovery at the library and at the jail. You'll find in those classes that there are two types of people: People who are ready to recover and people who aren't. Those who aren't ready have this in common: they are constantly giving reasons and excuses for their actions, trying to explain away their circumstances, and unwilling to take responsibility for their choices. While they might have compelling reasons for leading a life of debauchery (everything from being homeless to learning to do drugs from their parents at a very young age), it still boils down to being their own selfish choices that landed them in jail. Until they learn to accept their own culpability, their chances for recovery are very low. In order to recover from a destructive lifestyle (and sin), you must recognize your own selfish, sinful human nature. Yes, there are circumstances that make it harder for some people to get on the right path, but those circumstances don't really suffice as excuses because there are plenty of people in worse circumstances who have made better choices.

e.g., I realize that there are various reasons for people choosing the homosexual lifestyle, but it still boils down to their personal choice to serve self in the end. All sinful choices are selfish, but homosexuality does involve a unique form of self-worship, in that the person is attracted to their own image rather than the opposite sex that God created them to be attracted to. I don't mean "their own image" in the sense of what's in the mirror. Just the image that's the same as theirs, the same sex.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Really? You might want to re-read the thread so your comments can reflect reality.

There's a lot of conservative thought that makes a LOT of sense. And most liberal hogwash makes zero sense.

And therein you have proven my point perfectly. Dang, I don't even have to argue, now. Thanks.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Standards

Yes, no and yes.

Why wouldn't you have a sinner over for dinner?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Standards

Is your brain on today? You may want to borrow one from your 2 year old for a second. Ok, Bro. Pixler is saying that when someone steals the glory from God (i.e. accepting the praise for themselves) they pervert the image of God. I already pointed out some scripture to back this up. Please review my previous post on this discussion.

But your previous post didn't make any sense either. You're not very good at this explaining stuff, are you? I'm asking about the statement, "Glory and image are always interconnected." Says who? You? Steve? Obama? Where is this in the bible, or even, where is the principle? It's silly to form a conclusion based on a conclusive statement that has no scriptural foundation.

But the above-bolded statement just summarized pentecostal conservatism in one sentence.

Wow, that was good. You like it?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by pelathais

So, you place your understanding, your "reason" on the same level as the Word of God?

I'm not sure I understand the question. I acknowledge that every understanding and conclusion I reach has the potential to be fallible because I'm not God. I certainly don't place my interpretation of any scripture on the same level as the original scripture. If someone asked me to quote Colossians 2:8, do you think I would quote them "my version" instead of the version that's written? I might give them my understanding of it afterwards, in the way of discussion, but to place my understanding as equal to the Word itself? I'm not even sure what you mean by that. I recognize each person's personal responsibility to read the Word and reach their own conclusion.

[Standards]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Why wouldn't you have a sinner over for dinner?

"Deleted"

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Standards

A sinner is one thing. I don't want that spirit around my children.

So Jesus probably would've shunned this type of sinner?

A fornicating, lying, murderous, rebellious, selfish, adulterous, conniving and hypocritical spirit is better?

Do you literally believe they have little spirits on them that jump on people? Are homosexuals all possessed?

[Standards]

Originally Posted by notofworks

But your previous post didn't make any sense either. You're not very good at this explaining stuff, are you? I'm asking about the statement, "Glory and image are always interconnected." Says who? You? Steve? Obama? Where is this in the bible, or even, where is the principle? It's silly to form a conclusion based on a conclusive statement that has no scriptural foundation.

But the above-bolded statement just summarized pentecostal conservatism in one sentence.

Wow, that was good. You like it?

How do you like this? You're a synthetic rubber duckey that should close it's beak and play in the waters of mediocrity.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Standards

A sinner is one thing. I don't want that spirit around my children.

You've been funny with your schtick. But this isn't funny. At all. I reported this and I hope action is taken.



edited by AQP: phrase was removed from the quote at the request of the original poster

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Standards

A sinner is one thing. I don't want that spirit around my children.

Your sick.

I will tell you I not only would have them over my house for dinner I have had them over my house for dinner.

Perhaps you missed the memo that Jesus came to save sinners. It was the pharisees like you he had no use for.