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Old 07-15-2010, 01:33 PM
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Re: Godhead Question

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I love the attitude. Are you suggesting I'm not reading? Maybe I'm just not as smart as you, Prax.
You are reading something into what I posted that is not there.

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You did say he was a mode.
I said

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If people can compartmentalize the topic then it's easier to see.

God is a person, like you and I, in that He is a rational, thinking, intelligent being, yet of much much more "power" than us.

God though, as a person, has a Divine nature. It's at the incarnation that Person picked up a human nature too and became in practical terms, a human being.

The one Divine Spirit that makes the Father "Divine" unifies both so that the Son is not separated from the Father. We can use the terms modes or manifestations or forms
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You said the Father, Son, Spirit are modes.
It would be helpful if you quoted me.

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But if you are taking that back, then okay. As far as the Text, I'm asking where does the concept of modalism come from? Isn't it people attempting to explain this triune nature just like those who formed an old creed years prior?

Typical style of interaction with you "nobody said blah blah blah."

Jesus is a person that has human nature. Is Jesus God? Did you forget that part about who He is as well?
Why are you being so belligerent? You said something, as an assertion and Im pointing out nobody said what you said. Let's not ruin a good conversation ok?

I used the words "modes, manifestations or forms"..I said "we can use those words"...where do I find them?

Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among nations, believed on in the world, and received up into glory.

I also used the term BEING. Is Christ a being? A human being? the bible clearly says He is human.

then you said "Jesus is God, did you forget that part"

The Son is God incarnate (humanity). God is a Person. That Person was incarnate, becoming human. That person did not cease to possess the Divine nature too. So in the Son was have a Person, with a Divine nature and a Human nature. We can get into the issue of Kenosis and the Deity of the Son another time.
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