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Old 07-20-2010, 03:25 PM
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You can't?

Are you telling me a person that is a Puritan is also pure?


Maybe take a break and come back in 10?
Ughhh, I was referencing the etymology of the TERM...not the person! You might wanna' "take 10!"
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Explain it away all you want. It's CLEAR AND PLAIN. NOT... can read the word "NOT?????"



Btw... these are almost your actual words
Jeffrey, apparently our thick friend here doesn't understand that notes at the back of a chapter doesn't mean that all those people agree with the opinions of the author. A quote by this one or that one with an endnote does not mean a scholar interprets this passage the way you are. The fact is Bernard did not cite a single scholar that agrees with your view.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:32 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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Uh... Actually we were applying your logic that insisted, because of the word "NOT" being so "clear and plain" that context must not matter. But you later changed your mind on that.

RDP Nope! I've never said that we don't consider context. Simply another unproveable assertion from the Jeffrey bench!
You didn't say "no context," instead you kept screaming "it's clear and plain, it's clear and plain. NOT! Can't you read the word?" Then I dealt with the context, offered a way of using the "not that, but this" phrase, and you rejected it with "Argue with the Apostle! Can't you read the word NOT?" That was your rebuttal. So essentially, you rejected context.

Then, when you attempted a rebuttal argument (of my logic you say), you threw out Romans 13 and a verse in Ephesians in an attempt to suggest the word "not" always does the same thing to a verse. I debunked that, consistently appealing to context, and others offered other verses to show that OBVIOUSLY just because it says "not" or "not with" doesn't mean we literally apply strict prohibitionist interpretations in all verses. You agreed and cited context. We came full circle But now, you are left wide-open on the verses we are discussing. Context DOES matter, so don't let me hear you keep screaming "Can't you guys read NOT WITH" 100 times. It just makes you sound foolish.

Now... what smart alec comeback will you dance around with this time.
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I got one word for this thread:

LOL!

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I got one word for this thread:

LOL!

Isn't that 3 words?

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Ughhh, I was referencing the etymology of the TERM...not the person! You might wanna' "take 10!"
You said I called you "pure" because the word "puritan" has an etymology in the word "pure." Come on, rdp, you're really going to keep arguing this?

I called you a Puritan. The etymology is not relevant. It's quite obvious from the CONTEXT that I am referring to those 16th-17th Century Protestants and the later ascetic movements that associated with their beliefs. Actually, it wasn't that deep either. It was more of a pejorative. But whatever.

Fact is... we are actually arguing that? Really? Proof that you'd argue with the moon is purple.
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Jeffrey, apparently our thick friend here doesn't understand that notes at the back of a chapter doesn't mean that all those people agree with the opinions of the author. A quote by this one or that one with an endnote does not mean a scholar interprets this passage the way you are. The fact is Bernard did not cite a single scholar that agrees with your view.
I see, so a note gas to be w/in the chp. to be credible! Why do I waste my time? Oh, BTW, I thought the Bible said "Let God be true and EVERY MAN a liar." Let me guess, we need a "scholar" to tell us what that means right??? Plumb silly............
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:46 PM
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I see, so a note gas to be w/in the chp. to be credible! Why do I waste my time? Oh, BTW, I thought the Bible said "Let God be true and EVERY MAN a liar." Let me guess, we need a "scholar" to tell us what that means right??? Plumb silly............
Do you or do you not believe in the value of exegesis?

Did you or did you not appeal to a list of scholars (on your own) that included such lofty names as David Bernard and Nate Wilson?

Did you get called out on false references to "sources" and then claim it wasn't really important anyway?
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