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Old 07-26-2010, 09:02 PM
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Re: The Spiritual Body -- Physical or Non-Physical

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Originally Posted by Bro Benincasa
Now, back to our discussion, psychikos means "of the soul" and pneumatikos means "of the Holy Ghost"
Rather, pneumatikos means of the Spirit, holy or human. Context determines what spirit.

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The meanings of these Greek words are clear: psychikos and pneumatikos are adjectives, meaning something is made of, or is like, or shares the properties of the noun they are derived from, in this case psychę and pneuma respectively.
The terms can mean far more than that, bro. As I said, an ancient wind machine that was quite physical was called a PNEUMATIKOS. Why? It was not made from wind, nor was like wind, but was driven by wind.

RT Robertson:
Psuchikos is a qualitative adjective from psuchē (breath of life like animal life, soul). Here the Vulgate renders it by animalis and the German by sinnlich, the original sense of animal life as in Jud_1:19; Jam_3:15. In 1Co_15:44, 1Co_15:46 there is the same contrast between psuchikos and pneumatikos as here. The psuchikos man is the unregenerate man while the pneumatikos man is the renewed man, born again of the Spirit of God.
It can mean BORN OF SPIRIT.

Barnes noted this:
Now the “natural man” is there opposed to the spiritual man, the ψυχικὸς psuchikos to the πνευματικὸς pneumatikos, and if the latter be explained of “him who is enlightened by the Holy Spirit” - who is regenerate - the former must be explained of him who is not enlightened by that Spirit, who is still in a state of nature; and will thus embrace a class far more numerous than the merely sensual part of mankind.
Him who is enlightened by the Spirit.

It is pertaining to the wind or spirit in some manner. Not just being made of wind.

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The Apostle Paul clearly means to say that when we are resurrected, we become like the Holy Spirit (having the same composition of the heavenly), and cease to be what we were when we were alive (like our physical father Adam, who was made of the dust), but unlike the Holy Spirit, our spirit is still centrally located as an unseen body. Jesus explains to His questioners that in the resurrection the resurrected would be as the "angels" Mat 22:30, and Mar 12:25.
Angels appear in physical manners.

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This isn't rocket science, as Brother Blume would want us all to believe. Could be, that he is just trying to defend the last bastions of his dispensational beliefs? Brother Blume, now there is something that really needs to change.
It is indeed simple. The body with which Jesus rose from the tomb is the same spiritual body we shall arise with.

Belief in a physical resurrection is not standing on dispensational beliefs. That is like saying we are Roman Catholic since we believe Jesus died on a cross.

Now, where are your heavyweight Greek scholars that attest to what you are saying? My popcorn is wasting!
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