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08-01-2010, 05:23 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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08-01-2010, 06:03 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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Acts 10:45-46, says that the phenomena observed by Peter and those who had traveled to Caesarea with him was identical to the phenomena that had occurred in Acts 2 (See Acts 10:47). Nothing more is asserted in this passage concerning "speaking in tongues."
Nowhere in this passage does it say that Cornelius and his household "had to speak in tongues in order to be saved." Nowhere in this passage does it say that anyone else must "speak in tongues" in order to be saved.
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The thing that was asserted was that Peter knew that Cornelius and friends had received the gift of the Holy Ghost BECAUSE they spoke with other tongues. It implies that the baptism of the Spirit is accompanied by speaking with other tongues. It is the visible sign of being filled by an invisible God. Added to Acts 2 and Acts 8 and Acts 19, it is added weight to the doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking with other tongues. It leaves no doubt in the mind of the believer because they know they have received the promise of the Father when they spoke with tongues the first time as they prayed.
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08-01-2010, 06:05 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
We can think abstractly all we want to, but truth still stands. I know how I received the Holy Ghost, and it was with the evidence of tongues.
Since He is no respecter of persons.....
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08-01-2010, 06:05 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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The thing that was asserted was that Peter knew that Cornelius and friends had received the gift of the Holy Ghost BECAUSE they spoke with other tongues. It implies that the baptism of the Spirit is accompanied by speaking with other tongues. It is the visible sign of being filled by an invisible God. Added to Acts 2 and Acts 8 and Acts 19, it is added weight to the doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking with other tongues. It leaves no doubt in the mind of the believer because they know they have received the promise of the Father when they spoke with tongues the first time as they prayed. |
Yes. You have it right, sister. God bless your love for the truth!
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08-01-2010, 06:06 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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08-01-2010, 06:09 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
I got it just like they did in the Book of Acts. Just like Peter and the other apostles and Mary, the mother of our Lord. All of my children did, too. I'm so glad I don't have to try to explain why I think I've got it.
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08-01-2010, 06:12 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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Originally Posted by Phil Stearns
Yes. You have it right, sister. God bless your love for the truth!
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It makes you wonder how the Peter would have known that they were filled with the Spirit if they had not spoken with other tongues.
And why in the world did Paul ask those disciples in Ephesus if they had received the Holy Spirit since they believed if the Holy Spirit was given at faith? Redundant question.
And how did Philip know the Samaritans hadn't yet received the Spirit when they had believed the gospel and were baptized?
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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08-01-2010, 06:14 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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Originally Posted by Phil Stearns
I got it just like they did in the Book of Acts. Just like Peter and the other apostles and Mary, the mother of our Lord. All of my children did, too. I'm so glad I don't have to try to explain why I think I've got it.
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And I don't have to wonder if I have Christ in me because I received it like they did in the early church. I don't have to guess and wonder. I have been given an assurance by God. 
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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08-01-2010, 06:46 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
Well I am flabergasted at ya all. It's no wonder that I hear them preacher fellows on those real Apostolic forums say you are all apostate reprobate backsliders over here.
I shall brush the dust off my feet as I leave. TSK TSK TSK
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08-01-2010, 07:41 PM
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Re: Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment
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Hebrews 11
By Faith We Understand
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
We're all very familiar with this scripture.
So, with that said, why do we feel there has to be evidence or initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost?
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Because scripture clearly tells us to expect it?
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