Crab Fest 2010 - Page 2

Baron1710 · #11 08-02-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

That alone is the worth effort.

I'm not impressed with big numbers, that's all.

Spoken like someone happy with a church of 35.

What is it Chester Mitchell says? "We count people because people count."

Baron1710 · #12 08-02-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

That alone is the worth effort.

I'm not impressed with big numbers, that's all.

SO I guess 3,000 being added to the church on the Day of Pentecost didn't impress you either?

Big numbers bah anyone can get big numbers...except the majority of churches in America which run less than 100 people.

Digging4Truth · #13 08-02-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jagwinn

Patience. Patience. Patience. Can't bring a baby home and expect him to write a thesis.

I applaud any outreach. Plant the seed and let God grow them to maturity.

Well said.

Mr. Smith · #14 08-02-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Spoken like someone happy with a church of 35.

What is it Chester Mitchell says? "We count people because people count."

Actually, I believe 35 was probably the record attendance. "It's not about the numbers" is a statement that only comes from people who are highly disappointed in their number.

Of all the things I've seen on AFF, this statement by Mizpeh is probably the most nauseating I've ever seen. The high-pressure "Score a touchdown on every play" mentality of evangelism produces NOTHING. But becoming a part of the process of seeing people give their lives to Christ is often a long, complicated, and drawn-out process. It can take years of blood, sweat, and tears. Lots of tears. But when we invest in relationships, invest into the process of "Becoming all things to all men" so as to "Reach them", we potentially invest in heartache, rejection, turmoil, and oftentimes, failure. It's risky and it's HARD WORK. But it's worth it every single time. It's the ONLY purpose of the cross!!

The "Hit-n-run" evangelism style of crusades, bumper stickers, t-shirt slogans, and passing out tracts, is MUCH easier....and produces virtually nothing.

To "Become all things to all men" requires "Becoming something." And to "Become something" requires change, compromise, dedication, and sacrifice.

So for someone to come on a thread about Baron's Church's crabfeed and selfishly and ignorantly post, "Yeah, but how many got the Holy Ghost" (or whatever), is the post of a person who has never or may never enjoy the thrill of investing endless hours into the life of a person far from God who eventually takes the ultimate step of faith and transitions the cross from being a bible story into something that's real.

Baron1710 · #15 08-02-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Actually, I believe 35 was probably the record attendance. "It's not about the numbers" is a statement that only comes from people who are highly disappointed in their number.

Of all the things I've seen on AFF, this statement by Mizpeh is probably the most nauseating I've ever seen. The high-pressure "Score a touchdown on every play" mentality of evangelism produces NOTHING. But becoming a part of the process of seeing people give their lives to Christ is often a long, complicated, and drawn-out process. It can take years of blood, sweat, and tears. Lots of tears. But when we invest in relationships, invest into the process of "Becoming all things to all men" so as to "Reach them", we potentially invest in heartache, rejection, turmoil, and oftentimes, failure. It's risky and it's HARD WORK. But it's worth it every single time. It's the ONLY purpose of the cross!!

The "Hit-n-run" evangelism style of crusades, bumper stickers, t-shirt slogans, and passing out tracts, is MUCH easier....and produces virtually nothing.

To "Become all things to all men" requires "Becoming something." And to "Become something" requires change, compromise, dedication, and sacrifice.

So for someone to come on a thread about Baron's Church's crabfeed and selfishly and ignorantly post, "Yeah, but how many got the Holy Ghost" (or whatever), is the post of a person who has never or may never enjoy the thrill of investing endless hours into the life of a person far from God who eventually takes the ultimate step of faith and transitions the cross from being a bible story into something that's real.

She must use the Apostolic version of Evangelism Explosion...as you approach someone in the mall and say, "If you were to die today..." Only the Apostolic versions is, "Have , you been born again of the water and the Spirit?"

Mr. Smith · #16 08-02-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

She must use the Apostolic version of Evangelism Explosion...as you approach someone in the mall and say, "If you were to die today..." Only the Apostolic versions is, "Have , you been born again of the water and the Spirit?"

UGH!!!! The six questions. The next person that knocks on my door and......

Baron1710 · #17 08-02-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

UGH!!!! The six questions. The next person that knocks on my door and......

I guess you could ask them, "If I were to shoot you right now..."

whoami · #18 08-02-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

She must use the Apostolic version of Evangelism Explosion...as you approach someone in the mall and say, "If you were to die today..." Only the Apostolic versions is, "Have , you been born again of the water and the Spirit?"

A couple of summers ago a man (not Pentecostal) walked up into my yard as I was weeding the flower bed and said "Are you aware that Jezebels and Whores of Babylon will burn in the everlasting fire at the judgement?" (Item: I was wearing baggy capri pants and a t-shirt, not exactly streetwalker attire. lol) This was the first time I'd heard this approach to witnessing!

Mr. Smith · #19 08-02-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

I guess you could ask them, "If I were to shoot you right now..."

I've actually tried a couple of times to answer the 6 questions in a satisfactory way and I just can't get it right. It always ends with the guy trying to lead me to the Lord.

Baron1710 · #20 08-02-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by whoami

A couple of summers ago a man (not Pentecostal) walked up into my yard as I was weeding the flower bed and said "Are you aware that Jezebels and Whores of Babylon will burn in the everlasting fire at the judgement?" (Item: I was wearing baggy capri pants and a t-shirt, not exactly streetwalker attire. lol) This was the first time I'd heard this approach to witnessing!

I bet you would have much preferred an invitation to free crabs, hamburgers and hotdogs. Not to worry, Turkey fest is coming in November.