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Thank you captain obvious ... but the fruit seems to be now indelibly tied to apostolic fruit ... not the Vine's.
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kay..
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You confuse folks if you start adding this stuff ... the preacher may understand what he means but when you constantly drum beat ... the same mantra ... the "immature" are stunted.
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Gotcha. Don't disagree.
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Why does the everything have to be "apostolic" ... why not just speak about spiritual fruit without having to go into the "apostolic identity" and "apostolic fruit" spiel ...
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You know the answer to this.
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That's because the culture doesn't think anyone is spiritual unless they look and represent their myopic view of "apostolic".
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This is part of the answer.
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