Speaking In Tongues Does Not Equal Salvation.

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by Barb

No offense taken, and I stand corrected according to your evidence...

However, I must be a dunce because it doesn't make sense to me. If they are not separate acts, repentance and conversion, why did Peter say, "AND be converted."

I am not as scholarly as some of the rest here, but do know that kai has several meanings...and, which is, also.

It reading the Scripture, it would appear that 'and' is what fits, SO...can someone brighter than this sister explain it?

We cannot base theology on experience alone, but I can tell you that I have seen people whom I know personally to repent...truly repent with godly sorrow, again and again.

But for whatever reason, that is as far as it goes. They don't ever seem to go any farther in God than being sorry.

Some have said that they never FULLY repented, whatever that means. However, the people of whom I speak are backsliders, who upon repentance, spoke in tongues with joy.

IMO, they were never converted. Though brought to a place of regret and sorrow, they never turned and made a change.

It was a momentary heart change, but not a life change.

Please explain this so a 2 year old can understand it...

Hey sis, hope this helps clarify what I am trying to convey, sometimes in my mind I know what I am trying to say but have to think of how to communicate it effectively :-)

As far as the difference between repent and converted, repentance would cover the part where the person feels sorry enough for their sins to amend how they live.

Converted would cover them actually changing their religious views from what they used to believe to believing the gospel truth.

the word "converted" from merriam-webster.com includes:

"1 a : to bring over from one belief, view, or party to another"

People in the world who just repent without converting would be like when someone just "turns over a new leaf" so to speak. There are people in the world that reach a point in their lives where they regret how they lived enough to make a change (stop drinking and/or drugs, ect.) but without actually converting (changing their religious belief to the gospel truth).

Perhaps the apostle wanted to be sure they realized that just "turning over a new leaf" was not enough, they had to also convert their belief to the gospel truth and obey it.