In prayer, like at the evening dinner table, my kids primarily always ask the blessing opening with "Thank you Jesus...", and end with "in Jesus name". Hardcore oneness I guess-LOL
I'm not demanding theres really too much wrong with that, but to commonly never mention "Father" seems a little unbiblical to me. When I open in prayer I usually say "Father". I guess they go without using "Father' because our service leader at church ALWAYS just says "Jesus" this or "Jesus" that, no "Father" distiction at all.
And then yesterday, my 5 yr. old's memory verse was : 1 Thess. 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
She seemed a little confused at that verse LOL
Anybody run into this stuff?
__________________ As for me, may I never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because of that cross, my interest in this world has been crucified, and the world’s interest in me has also died.- Gal. 6:14
Re: Teaching kids to pray to Father, or always Jes
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Originally Posted by shag
In prayer, like at the evening dinner table, my kids primarily always ask the blessing opening with "Thank you Jesus...", and end with "in Jesus name". Hardcore oneness I guess-LOL
I'm not demanding theres really too much wrong with that, but to commonly never mention "Father" seems a little unbiblical to me. When I open in prayer I usually say "Father". I guess they go without using "Father' because our service leader at church ALWAYS just says "Jesus" this or "Jesus" that, no "Father" distiction at all.
And then yesterday, my 5 yr. old's memory verse was : 1 Thess. 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
She seemed a little confused at that verse LOL
Anybody run into this stuff?
It's simple. Pray to whom Jesus prayed to, His Father and God.
Re: Teaching kids to pray to Father, or always Jes
There are a plethora of these verses out there which we all summarily ignore and go on about our business.
When discussing this subject I tend to avoid scriptures like the one that was your daughters memory verse because of the standard "Well brother... "and" in this verse can also mean "even"... as to say God our Father EVEN the Lord Jesus Christ"
So... since there are so many out there where this standard retort cannot be put into play I avoid those.
There are other examples that are less likely to be quickly explained away although they are just as quickly ignored.
Such as...
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
2Cr 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:
Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
And so on...
That last one having more to do with your question of prayer.
When I pray I pray beginning... "Father... etc" and I end my prayer "In the name of Jesus Christ."
Re: Teaching kids to pray to Father, or always Jes
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
When I pray I pray beginning... "Father... etc" and I end my prayer "In the name of Jesus Christ."
D4T, I pray the same way and it seems to me many others do as well. Both Oneness and trinitarians.
The prayer that was given us as an example of how we should pray, The Lord's Prayer, starts out addressing "Our Father...."
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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