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Old 08-19-2010, 03:02 PM
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We were issued big boy pants in bootcamp.... that is certainly true.


makes me think we should have a national draft!
I think "The church" (not meaning the UPC for you jaded folks out there) need military types in the church. We need all types but we also need balance. I think the church can benefit from more discipline. Yet the church also does not want to be so rigid that we fall into a works based mentality of salvation
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:02 PM
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Shouldn't the church be full of every kinds from all walks?
Prax, my point was not that former military members (or current) shouldn't be in our churches Come on now! That's not what I'm talking about at all.

My statement referred to the attitudes many carry over into their faith walk (military personel aren't alone, but they are the topic at the moment). Same rigid paradigm. Strict obedience. Insensitivity. It doesn't leave a lot of room for Mt 5-7, discipleship and living life in the pattern of The Way.

And FTR, one of the sweetest old men I know is a Korean War Vet at my old church. He certainly breaks the mold. Refreshing.

I knew another guy that did young adult ministry, and he'd try to "mentor" his kids like they were in bootcamp. He'd lecture them in a drill sargent tone when they'd forget their Bible... if they didn't bring an offering... he was all over these kids. They hated him.

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Old 08-19-2010, 03:10 PM
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:34 PM
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:56 PM
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well that was a mouthful! good grief.

First of all I dont know where you get the idea that anything I have said would in relation to being tired of hearing folks ranting about the church being mean to them relates in any way to dealing harshly with someone who has been molested! Great googly moogly!

What an absolute insane idea! you have issues bro. you need some professional help.

As for the rest of what youve said... well... err... I just dont know what to say. lazy and fat. got it. yep. its true. lots of that. has nothing to do with Mr. Smith ranting along about the system being mean to him.

As much as the forum is a place for people to open up, there are a number of people that are here simply to blast away at the UPCI. it is thier whole purpose for being here. I have nothing for those people in the way of understanding. They have issues. deep seated personal issues. And they need to be told they have issues.

Those (as I have said repeatedly here) those that are just dealing with hurt, well, there are plenty of folks here who will be a good shoulder to cry on. You seem to be willing to play that role.

someone needs to tell them to get up and move on. now they have heard it.

Not, I am sorry but your rant here is just strange. the very idea that I would be vicious toward someone who has suffered molestation! My God what is wrong with you?
It's interesting how you correlate and respond when cornered. I've seen many others on this Forum do the same thing, using statements like, "You need professional help, Great googly moogly, My God what is wrong with you?" These are typical cop-outs and cover-ups to keep the light shining on your stage, so you can continue to be the hero.

In fact, read up on what a Psychopath is. You may be surprised at how your attitude reflects this disorder.

I pastored a church in a Native American Village for 2 years. Almost every adult woman in that Church had been molested as a child. You make it sound like this never happens. It is you that needs professional help, because you refuse to admit the veracity of this problem. I can just see you dealing with these women; get over it!! What's wrong with you?? Put your BIG BOY PANTS ON!!

Your rants that basically tell people to take a hike if they don't get it, is not only wrong, but inhumane. You are one reason people leave Christianity or Organized Religion because patience runs thin in your blood. You don't want to see the dark side, only your side, and when people come to you trying to relate severe trauma and brokenness, you basically tell them it’s my way, or the highway.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:25 PM
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I pastored a church in a Native American Village for 2 years. Almost every adult woman in that Church had been molested as a child. You make it sound like this never happens.
I didn't get that impression from what Ferd posted at all
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I didn't get that impression from what Ferd posted at all
Prax, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. It's easy to do that in this format of communicating. But Ferd seems to avoid the difficult issues that we face in Church today. I'll admit, many people purposely use the past to justify evil habits of today. But I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about people who struggle from things, and they honestly can't figure out what is wrong with themselves.

They don't know why they have no, or little joy in life. They don't know why they are so weak, and others are so strong. They don’t understand why emotional storms come at a moment’s notice, creating anxiety and deep stress or depression. They can't figure out why going to Church isn't working.

Pie in the Sky Pentecost is over for many people because of what they've been through. People are tired of broken promises and dreams. When people discover the many lies about our Movement, they have a hard time trusting again.

I just have a hard time with people being so brash towards those who never quite make it in life or who don’t measure up to our Standard of loving God.
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:42 PM
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