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Old 08-24-2010, 10:14 AM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre

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I've seen this before. Old news. Griping, complaining, negative, gibberish, I'm-right-you're-wrong, ugh.

Just have it your way, Jason. You're right. We Seeker types deny the cross, we just entertain, we don't care if people really change as long as we have a crowd, we're not committed nor are the people in our churches, we don't believe in or ask for sacrifice, Robert Schuller is the devil, Rick Warren is the anti-Christ, Bill Hybels only cares about a big crowd.

Sigh.

The internet is LOADED with hate-speech about these people. I can, also, find, at least, 10,000 pieces on the internet that hates on these guys.

Jealousy. Period.

If the internet had been going in 1 AD they would have been writing hate speech on Jesus and the disciples. So go ahead, Jason, believe it if you want.

Whatever.
Hate speech on Jesus? They crucified him.



I take it you have not read Rick Warrens book or his agenda?
It is fasinating. he has a doctrine and cherry picks bible verse translations to support it. He quotes phrases out of certain verses to justify his statements.

From a marketing merchandising standpoint, he does well. He markets to the unchurched. It is done so he gets people that are not suspicious of some of his false claims.

Seeker sensitive is old fashioned marketing. Take a survey and find what the customers want. In Corinthians, Paul preeched to change the culture. In seeker sensitive, the church conforms to the culture. he keeps pumping new products into the supply chain.

With my education, I just cruised thru his books and found who he borrowed self motivation and marketing tactics from. Every one from Tony Robbins to Steve Covey. There is goal oriented management, MBO, One Minute Manager stuff and then also a sprinkle of secular humanist phrases and quotes.

Look at his footnotes and see how many translations he clips small phrases from He does it to fortify his messaging.
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No I am hungry for the WORD. I recalll one church that bought his program. From early on, it was get with the "Program" or get out.
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