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Old 09-03-2010, 11:28 PM
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You have no idea what I may have been through.

But excuse me, don't you think it is possible for someone other than whites to be racist?

If you really knew me, you would know that I am NOT racist, NOT prejudiced against anyone of any color. But I get tired of people (ANY race) constantly blaming things on race and color ! Personally, I think Martin Luther King would be appalled at the way the race card is used.

JMHO - I'm out of here! Love you, MM!

Then tell us....have you been called the racial epitaphs that MM has been? You say I don't know you. Sounds like you may know MM, but do you realky know him well enough to tag him a "Racists"? It seems you labeled him with that based solely on what he said here. I don't think that's fair. At all. MM is NOT a racists based on what he wrote here. Not even close.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:45 PM
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Then tell us....have you been called the racial epitaphs that MM has been? You say I don't know you. Sounds like you may know MM, but do you realky know him well enough to tag him a "Racists"? It seems you labeled him with that based solely on what he said here. I don't think that's fair. At all. MM is NOT a racists based on what he wrote here. Not even close.
Yes, I know MM. No, I have not been called all the names he mentioned, but I have been discriminated against for other reasons. I would have never thought of him as "racist" before (although I know him well enough to know that sometimes it seemed that he had a chip on his shoulder regarding some things.) Ok, so, I will retract my "racist" remark, but I still think that he is making some pretty broadbrush remarks and is somewhat prejudicial in this thinking.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:49 PM
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Yes, I know MM. No, I have not been called all the names he mentioned, but I have been discriminated against for other reasons. I would have never thought of him as "racist" before (although I know him well enough to know that sometimes it seemed that he had a chip on his shoulder regarding some things.) Ok, so, I will retract my "racist" remark, but I still think that he is making some pretty broadbrush remarks and is somewhat prejudicial in this thinking.

Thank you.

He's passionate about what he believes. That's ok. And it's ok for someone to disagree. Maybe his conclusions are right and maybe not. But he does ask some good questions.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:03 AM
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That idiot was showed to have a propensity for actions that would constitute racism, wasn't he?

Shouldn't that invalidate whatever he has to say in a court of law? He ruined his own character, rendering his own influence to affect justice impotent-- and rightfully so!


Legally speaking, OJ is not a murderer.
No, he wasn't. He was not on trial. OJ was shown to have a propensity to commit violence against his wife. He had beaten her before! Saying the N word is not a crime. Beating the cr@p out of your wife is!

The reason for his testimony being weak is that he perjured himself, not that he was a racist. The prosecution could have validated Furhman's testimony. The problem was more to do with the prosecution and the LAPD's ineptness
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:14 AM
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The premise of this thread has been thoroughly discredited yet that has been sidetracked with another fact that is thrown out as if it supports the assertion made. It is nothing but a bald assertion that proves absolutely nothing.

How about backing up the assertion that white NFL players get shorter suspensions than black players?
That's because people on the left of this issue operate on emotions not objective facts
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Then tell us....have you been called the racial epitaphs that MM has been? You say I don't know you. Sounds like you may know MM, but do you realky know him well enough to tag him a "Racists"? It seems you labeled him with that based solely on what he said here. I don't think that's fair. At all. MM is NOT a racists based on what he wrote here. Not even close.
Mr. Smith, why is it racist for me to determine how a group of minorities in SE DC are going to act based on their race and location, but it is not racist for a minority to label an entire society as racist based on the acts of a few? Both are judging an entire race of people based on how some have acted.

Why are attitudes of minorities excused because they have been called names but the white guy that has been jumped by a minority group should never have a bad word to say about a group of minorities walking down the sidewalk towards him?

Does racism exist? Yes.

Are minorities discriminated against? Yes.

I am discriminated against often and where I live I am the minority.
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Mr. Smith, why is it racist for me to determine how a group of minorities in SE DC are going to act based on their race and location, but it is not racist for a minority to label an entire society as racist based on the acts of a few? Both are judging an entire race of people based on how some have acted.

Response: I don't think it is possible to determine how someone is going to act based on their race. I think there may be increased possibilities, but not absolutes.

Second, the bolded part, I don't think it's a few and therein lies a large part of the problem. It is impossible for me to definitively do an exhaustive research on this issue (percentage of racist, white America), and I believe, impossible for anyone to because very few would admit to it, but I have two resources for believing it's still a HUGE problem, not just a small problem of a few: 1) What I hear myself from casual conversation; and 2) The stories I hear from balanced, well-rounded people who fall into a so-called "Minority" class.


Why are attitudes of minorities excused because they have been called names but the white guy that has been jumped by a minority group should never have a bad word to say about a group of minorities walking down the sidewalk towards him?

Response: I'm not personally excusing it but I am trying to understand it. I don't believe racism is justified on either side, but until I have experienced the brunt of being slighted repeatedly, refused positions, called names, and disenfranchised by establishments and people in power, strictly because of my race, I don't feel like I'm in the position to fully understand.

Question: The "White guy" who was "Jumped" by the "minorities"....was he jumped by them strictly because he was white or because they wanted to jump someone? I think there's a difference.


Does racism exist? Yes.

Response: I believe it more than just "Exists." It's still prevalent. It's much more frowned upon and no longer out in the open as it was, but hearts didn't suddenly change in the last 40 years.

Are minorities discriminated against? Yes.

I am discriminated against often and where I live I am the minority.

I don't doubt it. But have you been denied a job, a career, an education, advancement, or opportunity, because of your race?
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Mr. Smith, why is it racist for me to determine how a group of minorities in SE DC are going to act based on their race and location, but it is not racist for a minority to label an entire society as racist based on the acts of a few? Both are judging an entire race of people based on how some have acted.

Why are attitudes of minorities excused because they have been called names but the white guy that has been jumped by a minority group should never have a bad word to say about a group of minorities walking down the sidewalk towards him?

Does racism exist? Yes.

Are minorities discriminated against? Yes.

I am discriminated against often and where I live I am the minority.

By the way, based strictly on the merits that the NFL has to judge on, I don't think Ben Rothlisschugerheisen should have been suspended at all. Not only has he not been convicted of anything, he hasn't even been charged with anything. He was suspended because he was accused. That's a dangerous trend in my opinion.
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Ya one thing, if the glove dont fit, you must not convict ,of course that was because OJ stopped taking his arthuritis medicine, so his hands would swell .What a farce.
not to mention Cochran playing the race card even Shapiro was against it.
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Or maybe the jury was cooked so that ALL the AMERICAN minorities could stick their thumb in the eye of white folks and say...
Your post might be TIC but that's the mentality of a lot minorities.
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