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Old 09-07-2010, 02:35 PM
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The reason why he perjured himself, I believe, stems from his prejudiced views and racist actions.

Any attempt of the Prosecution to attempt to validate Furhman's testimony would have risked attempting to validate a man that is clearly racist-- which would not have worked well in most places in America today, given the circumstances of THIS case.

Yes Furhman perjured himself, but his racist actions and racially prejudiced views are what made him an anathema to the Prosecution's case.
You can believe that all you want. Courts are supposed to be about facts

You said, any attempt to validate his testimony would be seen as validating this man...well that is my point exactly. Was this trial about the facts in the case or the emotional feelings of the jury? Was this man found innocent because of racial emotions? Social justice?

Trials are supposed to be about facts. What you just said bothers me because it suggests my earlier point that this wasn't about facts but social justice....get one for the black man, screw the whites. At the expense of 2 innocent victims and their families?
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:19 PM
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You can believe that all you want. Courts are supposed to be about facts

You said, any attempt to validate his testimony would be seen as validating this man...well that is my point exactly. Was this trial about the facts in the case or the emotional feelings of the jury? Was this man found innocent because of racial emotions? Social justice?

Trials are supposed to be about facts. What you just said bothers me because it suggests my earlier point that this wasn't about facts but social justice....get one for the black man, screw the whites. At the expense of 2 innocent victims and their families?
Now your meddling prax, kinda describes what affimative action has become, get one for the black guy,screw whitey,ignore quals.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:44 PM
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If Affirmative Action could prevent racism, Id be all for it. All it does is force quota's that ensures a white person WON'T get a job if that quota is not met.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:42 PM
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You can believe that all you want. Courts are supposed to be about facts

You said, any attempt to validate his testimony would be seen as validating this man...well that is my point exactly. Was this trial about the facts in the case or the emotional feelings of the jury? Was this man found innocent because of racial emotions? Social justice?

Trials are supposed to be about facts. What you just said bothers me because it suggests my earlier point that this wasn't about facts but social justice....get one for the black man, screw the whites. At the expense of 2 innocent victims and their families?

Prax,

Would you really want the jury to take serious the testimony of a racist white man who has perjured himself in court?

In a trial, character is VERY important.

He assasinated his own character. He renderred himself useless to the Prosecution. He embarrassed his entire agency, maybe even police officers all over the country.


The jury could not convict OJ with the evidence presented because the Prosecution could not prove his guilt BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT.

OJ could have walked if the trial had been held in Jackson, MS in the 1990's, as long as there were considerable doubts. With the police tampering with evidence, lying in court and notably racist, the Prosecution would lost that case anywhere in America where citizens are not concerned with ensuring that JUSTICE is served-- and that not at the expense of an innocent man.
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If Affirmative Action could prevent racism, Id be all for it. All it does is force quota's that ensures a white person WON'T get a job if that quota is not met.
AA is not about quotas and this argument is tired and old-- not relevant.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:51 PM
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Prax,

Would you really want the jury to take serious the testimony of a racist white man who has perjured himself in court?

In a trial, character is VERY important.

He assasinated his own character. He renderred himself useless to the Prosecution. He embarrassed his entire agency, maybe even police officers all over the country.


The jury could not convict OJ with the evidence presented because the Prosecution could not prove his guilt BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT.

OJ could have walked if the trial had been held in Jackson, MS in the 1990's, as long as there were considerable doubts. With the police tampering with evidence, lying in court and notably racist, the Prosecution would lost that case anywhere in America where citizens are not concerned with ensuring that JUSTICE is served-- and that not at the expense of an innocent man.
You're confusing the issue, which was if the prosecution could validate the testimony of the detective then YES I want them to take what he said because it was validated. Whether the man is a racist or not is irrelevant.

Remember? You mentioned validating what he said. IF his testimony could be validated by the prosecution then it's valid regardless of this man's feelings towards other races
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:08 PM
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I don't doubt it. But have you been denied a job, a career, an education, advancement, or opportunity, because of your race?
The area where I bought my first home was in a minority area.It was the only place in the city where you could get a home that didn't have a clause in the contract that forbade them to sell to blacks or somrthing to that effect.Even Japanese Americans were allocated to this area.
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Prax,

Would you really want the jury to take serious the testimony of a racist white man who has perjured himself in court?

In a trial, character is VERY important.

He assasinated his own character. He renderred himself useless to the Prosecution. He embarrassed his entire agency, maybe even police officers all over the country.


The jury could not convict OJ with the evidence presented because the Prosecution could not prove his guilt BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT.

OJ could have walked if the trial had been held in Jackson, MS in the 1990's, as long as there were considerable doubts. With the police tampering with evidence, lying in court and notably racist, the Prosecution would lost that case anywhere in America where citizens are not concerned with ensuring that JUSTICE is served-- and that not at the expense of an innocent man.
Believe or not, race was huge in that trial. If OJ was white or victoms were'nt blonde hair blues eyes, he would have been convicted, IMO. Unfortunately, many still can't look past race in when judging a person or situation.
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Next race card example

The government has accused Clemens of making false statements (lying)to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs.

On one hand he speaks their language. On the other hand, does congress take performance hindering drugs?
Rafael Palmerio (one of my all time favorite players) lied to congress about using steriods.

he is not facing any charges.

Clemens faces charges.

is this a racist attack on Clemens?
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Would You Want a Man who Said and Did the Following
To be a Face of Your News Organization?

Tried to qualify for disability payments because his hatred for black officers was debilitating.

Perjured himself on national TV when he said he never used the word, nigger, when it was common knowledge he did.

Claimed as a consultant (on tape) for a screen play on women in law enforcement, NOT race, that he had regularly framed black people.

Claimed as a consultant (on tape) that he would like to build a bomb that could blow up all black people.

Claimed as a consultant (on tape) that he would attend "kill parties" whenever a cop killed a black man.

Who was quoted saying the following: all black people should be collected and burned.

Claimed as a consultant (on tape) all of the following:

"No, if I would have arrested the son of a bitch, I would have killed him. If I ever see the son of a bitch and we're alone, I would kill him...If there's nobody except him and me, dead men tell no tales."

"Most real good policemen understand that they would love to take certain people to the alley and just blow their brains out..."

"We stopped the choke because a bunch of Niggers have a bunch of these organizations in the south end, and because all Niggers are choked out and killed -- twelve in ten years. Really is extraordinary, isn't it?"

"Westwood is gone, the niggers have discovered it."

"There is going to be a massacre in the future and they know that. There is the Rolling 60's, nigger group they went into a sporting good store and stole 50 Uzis, 3,000 rounds."

"First thing, anything out of a nigger's mouth for the first five or six sentences is a .............. lie. That is just right out. There has got to be a reason why he is going to tell you the truth… You choke him out until he tells you the truth. You know it is kind of funny. But a lot of policemen will get a kick out of it."

"We basically get impatient with him being so .............. stupid. Which I thought he was. So I just handcuffed him and went the scenic route to the station. We searched him again and found the gun. Went over to the baseball diamond and talked to him. When I left, Dana goes, `No blood, Mark.' `No problem, not even any marks, Dana.' Just body shots. Did you ever try to find a bruise on a Nigger. It is pretty tough, huh?"

"When he gives me his driver's license, I'll just rip the ............ up."

"I had 66 allegations of brutality… We grabbed a girl that lived there… Grabbed her by the hair and stuck a gun to her head, and used her as a barricade. Walked up and told them: `I've got this girl, I'll blow her .............. brains out, if you come out with a gun.' Held her like this -- threw the bitch down the stairs… I must have about 3000 or 4000 pages of internal affairs investigations out there."


Now, some people might object to much of the foul language in this particular blog. It's all Mark's language. They might feel that it should be censored and might even judge me for reprinting it. Again, it's all Mark's language. The question these people should ask themselves is: Why not judge Mark for the words?


http://gopexposed.blogspot.com/2005/...r-racists.html
Mark was Johnny's ace in the hole, from the record he is a slimeball!! OJ's lawyers were just better than the state's. The prosecutors' were pathetic.
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