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Old 09-15-2010, 04:29 PM
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What if I never achieved it? Would that excuse everyone else from doing what Jesus said to do?
Who HAS "achieved" it?
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:30 PM
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Look at it like this:

[12] Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. Phil 4:12

PERFECT AND COMPLETE IN WHAT?

ALL THE WILL OF GOD!

To God to be perfect is doing all his will.

By the way, tons of scripture supports this. None support that perfection IS NOT required.
Proof-texting a salutation. Tisk Tisk.

This only complements what Sherri explained to you about the word "perfect" here.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:43 PM
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Who HAS "achieved" it?
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Phil. 2:12

[10] Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe: 1 Thess. 2:10

I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one. 1 John 2:14

There are a few examples.
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Proof-texting a salutation. Tisk Tisk.

This only complements what Sherri explained to you about the word "perfect" here.
Tisk, tisk?

Proof texting is a powerful and prominent way of study that is used by practically everyone!
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Re: Reality Church Los Angeles

I did not mean to turn the focus off the "Reality Church" topic. I was just pointing out that the Pastor does not take Jesus teaching seriously enough. In that he is certainly in the mainstream.
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:06 PM
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I did not mean to turn the focus off the "Reality Church" topic. I was just pointing out that the Pastor does not take Jesus teaching seriously enough. In that he is certainly in the mainstream.
The endtimes church is most likely like warm.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:42 PM
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They are supposed to belong to a group of churches and there's supposed to be one in my area
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I am listening to and watching a few sermons from there. I like the Pastor.
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Tisk, tisk?

Proof texting is a powerful and prominent way of study that is used by practically everyone!
And that, my friend, is a tragedy.
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Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Phil. 2:12

[10] Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe: 1 Thess. 2:10

I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one. 1 John 2:14

There are a few examples.
You believe Paul was talking to a corporate people who achieved perfection, Michael?
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