Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cancer - Page 2

coadie · #11 09-21-2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

I stand corrected, spell check messed my title up, IT IS Hitchens!! He is very interesting to listen to about the political sense. His view of religion is probably pretty accurate in many quarters!!

I consider Hitchins a top evangelist for atheism and evolutionism.

God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything

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geekette · #12 09-21-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

There are some times in life when having the courage of your convictions is NOT a good thing. This is definitely one of them.

Oh, I don't know...If I were in Hitchens' position and I heard all the hellfire and damnation coming my way, I'd be saying, "What, are you threatening me?"

If God is so impotent that he has to rely on threats to get people to believe...oh, wait, that's for the hellfire thread, I'll take it over there.

But I am thankful I'm not Chris Hitchens, I don't know that I'd be so charitable to people who are basically telling me that after I draw my last breath I'm headed off to a fiery place of torment.

Twisp · #13 09-21-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

There are some times in life when having the courage of your convictions is NOT a good thing. This is definitely one of them.

Perhaps to you it isn't. To him it is everything.

Really, there is no reason for him to become a Christian before he dies. He doesn't believe in God, so the motivational fear of hell is not there for him. He can pass away in peace.

crakjak · #14 09-21-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

I consider Hitchins a top evangelist for atheism and evolutionism.

God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything

The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever

Hitchens is definitely, one of the top, but Dawkins is the top dog, in the show.
Hitchens is dying of cancer as the result of his medicating himself with alcohol and nicotine. It is sad, he is a man that has been inbittered by the Roman Catholic Church, and religion in general.

We must all decide if we will live focused on the evil in the world or if we will focus on the good, the righteous, and the beautiful!! Hitchens, I am afraid refuses to look beyond the former.

crakjak · #15 09-21-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

Perhaps to you it isn't. To him it is everything.

Really, there is no reason for him to become a Christian before he dies. He doesn't believe in God, so the motivational fear of hell is not there for him. He can pass away in peace.

I don't think Christopher has peace, he seems to just be resigned to hopelessness.

crakjak · #16 09-21-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by geekette

Oh, I don't know...If I were in Hitchens' position and I heard all the hellfire and damnation coming my way, I'd be saying, "What, are you threatening me?"

If God is so impotent that he has to rely on threats to get people to believe...oh, wait, that's for the hellfire thread, I'll take it over there.

But I am thankful I'm not Chris Hitchens, I don't know that I'd be so charitable to people who are basically telling me that after I draw my last breath I'm headed off to a fiery place of torment.

Like I said, for most of religion Hitchens had it about right.

crakjak · #17 09-21-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

God is a refining fire. God is also the Judge. Face the Refining fire now or face Eternal fire then. It's your choice

The Creator is not an eternal torturer of that creation! He is better at creation than that, creation has required some corrections and "refining" along the way, but He will get it completely right before He finishes!!

Twisp · #18 09-21-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

I don't think Christopher has peace, he seems to just be resigned to hopelessness.

Of course he has peace in dying. If you don't believe in a hell, dying isn't that big a deal.

I am sure he wishes he had more time, like all do, but as for dying, there is no punishment that he can see. Can't get more peace than that.

Twisp · #19 09-21-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

The Creator is not an eternal torturer of that creation! He is better at creation than that, creation has required some corrections and "refining" along the way, but He will get it completely right before He finishes!!

What you call refining, some would call torturing in the flames of hell.

ILG · #20 09-21-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by geekette

Oh, I don't know...If I were in Hitchens' position and I heard all the hellfire and damnation coming my way, I'd be saying, "What, are you threatening me?"

If God is so impotent that he has to rely on threats to get people to believe...oh, wait, that's for the hellfire thread, I'll take it over there.

But I am thankful I'm not Chris Hitchens, I don't know that I'd be so charitable to people who are basically telling me that after I draw my last breath I'm headed off to a fiery place of torment.

LOL! I like your spunk, Geekette.