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Old 09-23-2010, 11:25 AM
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Re: For those that left the UPC...

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How is that not biblical, OneFaith2? It may cross many peoples' perceptions of the interpretation of a few verses, but the context does have strong scriptural basis.

We choose to be baptized. By being baptized, WE are putting on Christ. We are demonstrating His death, burial and resurrection by being baptized by immersion. We are proclaiming His name and what He has done, identifying with Him through baptism.

Gal 3:23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

INTO Christ. Not by a pronouncement over us by another person, but INTO Him, by faith. How? By baptism itself, not a series of words spoken.

Co 2:12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Rom 6:3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Again in both these passages the act of baptism, not a series of words, identifies us with Jesus.

1Cor 10:1Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
How were they baptized UNTO Moses? Not by someone pronouncing "In the name of Moses" over them as they passed through the sea, but by their faith in walking through on dry land.

Even 1 Cor 1:10Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. ...13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 14I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 17For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

Is, according to commentaries http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/1-13.htm (see lower part of the page) discussing that people are baptized INTO someone's name to profess becoming followers of that person, and that Paul was making the point that he didn't baptize them nor did he make them his own followers, but Christ's. This passage could be brought to the unstated conclusion that since they were not baptized in the name of Paul, they were baptized into a name, and that name would have been Jesus', or it could mean that Paul did not make disciples for himself, but of Jesus. Jesus died for them, and it is Him they should follow, not dividing the body of Christ with disputes, not following various leaders, but following the One who died for them and they pledged to serve by their baptism.
The entire history of baptism indicates to be baptized in the name of requires some type of formula or wording. whether it was the shorter formula first (indicated by Encyclopedia Briattanica) or the latter triune formula, to be baptized INTO something required a formula that is spoken.

The reason i am saying it is unbiblical for you to say that, is that calling on the name of the Lord was commanded in Acts 22:16 connected with the rite of baptism. If we did not have an example of what being baptized into a name was (hence an action only could be applied) then the view you have stated would definitely be probable. But history does record otherwise and hence we must take what the apostles layed out for us. It therefore was not action only but in word and in deed
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