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Old 10-21-2010, 10:57 PM
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Rational people that can see the obvious.

It is a PC stunt and a judge that tries to legislate from the bench. That takes a big "ego"


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Besides, Federal Judges are only to interpret law in light of the Constitution. That's all. They don't figure out how to enforce laws. How to change programs. They just determine the legality of measures. Asking them to do more than that only further empowers them.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:21 PM
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Besides, Federal Judges are only to interpret law in light of the Constitution. That's all. They don't figure out how to enforce laws. How to change programs. They just determine the legality of measures. Asking them to do more than that only further empowers them.
You seem to have confidence in your own mind and don't bother to read for facts.
U.S. District Judge Virginia A. Phillips set the injunction in place last week, and on Tuesday, she denied the government’s request that she stay that action.

What you lack in insight you more than offset with zeal.

I take it you have read her first order or the second one.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:06 AM
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You seem to have confidence in your own mind and don't bother to read for facts.
U.S. District Judge Virginia A. Phillips set the injunction in place last week, and on Tuesday, she denied the government’s request that she stay that action.

What you lack in insight you more than offset with zeal.

I take it you have read her first order or the second one.
Coadie, it's amazing you've read ever legal document, science book, taken every class known to man when you attempt to respond to people. Man, I bow down to your whit and intellect. You are soooooo amazing. Having a degree in Googleology is a difficult feat

Setting injunctions is all part of saying "this is not legal." Point being, this Judge would not put together a plan of how this should all work out. That's the responsibility of the 100 other government-paid bureaucrats to figure out.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:13 AM
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Coadie, it's amazing you've read ever legal document, science book, taken every class known to man when you attempt to respond to people. Man, I bow down to your whit and intellect. You are soooooo amazing. Having a degree in Googleology is a difficult feat

Setting injunctions is all part of saying "this is not legal." Point being, this Judge would not put together a plan of how this should all work out. That's the responsibility of the 100 other government-paid bureaucrats to figure out.
Don't forget he is a vascular surgeon too.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:14 AM
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Coadie, it's amazing you've read ever legal document, science book, taken every class known to man when you attempt to respond to people. Man, I bow down to your whit and intellect. You are soooooo amazing. Having a degree in Googleology is a difficult feat

Setting injunctions is all part of saying "this is not legal." Point being, this Judge would not put together a plan of how this should all work out. That's the responsibility of the 100 other government-paid bureaucrats to figure out.
Will your PC friends at Code Pink provide pink t-shirts to wear under the camo gear?
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:18 AM
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I see you googled the name. I wondered if someone would do that. No deep purpose in choosing the screen name really. Picking the name Azzan had less to do with it's meaning 'strength' and more with the fact that I liked it.

As to my comment about being more effective. My reason for hiding my gender is as Kayl guessed, I feel it eliminates bias.
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That means you're a girl, because a guy wouldn't hide it as much.
Feminine attributes of a homosexual male?
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:31 AM
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I think that perhaps we should lift those restrictions that would ban gay individuals from service and strengthen those codes of conduct regulations that address "relationships" between soldiers.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:17 AM
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That means you're a girl, because a guy wouldn't hide it as much.
And what you think if I told you that I were a man?
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:34 AM
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Oh I do understand the not wanting folks biased and the anonymity thing, I too was anonymous at one time.

My question is about you being "effective" here on AFF. If all was perfect for you here, what would be the desired outcome. What effect are you hoping to have on those dialogging here?
Honestly, at the moment, I don't any desired outcome in mind. I joined the conversation due to NOW's request to hear from someone gay. It does help to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about based upon personal experience.

I feel that as long as you do not know my gender then you must deal with me simply as a homosexual and not as a stereotypical "sissy man" or a "macho woman". I know everyone likes to think that they are not a bigot or a racist but that isn't always the case. My take on it, you might feel otherwise.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:56 AM
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And what you think if I told you that I were a man?
Well, honestly, I don't even know why I commented on your gender. It doesn't really make any difference to me what gender you are and has nothing to do with the actual discussion.
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