NOW, When Is Someone Saved? - Page 26

Socialite · #**251** 10-25-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

good for you. i am sure you are convinced it is biblical.

saved at belief. (then in the simplicity of it all, get real complicated in explaining how belief is this deep heart thing that cant be explained easily. )

A Salam

Yeah, it's real complicated.

The explanation for people like you who misrepresent "believers" as being people who have accepted a propositional statement instead of a life turned to Jesus.

notofworks · #**252** 10-25-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sandie

Hi Socialite,
I'm not going to hang out in this thread much longer.
I believe as you do and as many do here, that without faith and the grace of God we'd all be lost and headed for a hells grave.
I'm getting a little tired of the questions, if you don't know what repentance is then perhaps you should look it up instead of asking me.
Nothing, I repeat nothing that has been said in this thread or anywhere else I've read on this forum tells me that Acts 2:38 isn't necessary to obey. Nothing.
Either God meant what He said thru Peter or He was just kidding around (I shudder to even make such a statement).
Why that is such a stumbling block to so many I don't really understand, it's there for all to read and accept or reject.
Jesus said the way was narrow and "FEW" would be that find it. Accept God's plan of salvation or reject it, that choice is up to the individual.
No wonder Jesus said unless we believe like a child we would not be a part of His Kingdom.
All this gyration to get around a simple, yet profound truth is truly mind boggling. But, I leave such things to God.
I will continue to express the Gospel to as many as will listen and give them the instructions God has laid out on how to obey this marvelous Good News.
God bless.

And THIS, ladies & gentlemen, is why there aren't many conservatives left on the forum. Their position is indefensible. They'd rather just run.

notofworks · #**253** 10-25-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

down here in the south we call this kind of diatribe a personal manifesto. The Unibomber had one of those.

and son, you need to know a few things about me before suggesting my faith was shallow. I love you and I honestly hope you achieve all the things in Christ you want to! Be Blessed!

Pray with me that our church gets it CO so we can move into our brand spanking new multi-million dollar church! Its gonna be awesome!

PS I will post pictures really soon!

Ferd, you seem to only be able to answer dialogue with diatribe. No substance here at all, just trash-talking. Silly.

"And son"??? "Unibomber"? "Personal Manifesto"?

Silly.

scotty · #**254** 10-25-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

And THIS, ladies & gentlemen, is why there aren't many conservatives left on the forum. Their position is indefensible. They'd rather just run.

Naaa, just get tired of the same ole answers from the other side. No matter how each side explains their views the other side has an answer. After a while its the same ole same ole being rehashed. The only reason conservatives back out is because they dont get so much enjoyment out of arguing as others do. Threads like this would go on for days saying the same old thing over and over and over if the conservatives stayed at it the way some liberals do . Whats the point ? Agree to disagree. Its those who feel they must "win" who keep the argument going.

notofworks · #**255** 10-25-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Naaa, just get tired of the same ole answers from the other side. No matter how each side explains their views the other side has an answer. After a while its the same ole same ole being rehashed. The only reason conservatives back out is because they dont get so much enjoyment out of arguing as others do. Threads like this would go on for days saying the same old thing over and over and over if the conservatives stayed at it the way some liberals do . Whats the point ? Agree to disagree. Its those who feel they must "win" who keep the argument going.

And you folks DON'T give the same ole answers??? Hilarious. We're still here, Scotty, and not going anywhere, remaining very happy to discuss the Word of Truth, rightly divide it, and follow it completely.

Once again, you've been out-blued.

Socialite · #**256** 10-25-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Naaa, just get tired of the same ole answers from the other side. No matter how each side explains their views the other side has an answer. After a while its the same ole same ole being rehashed. The only reason conservatives back out is because they dont get so much enjoyment out of arguing as others do. Threads like this would go on for days saying the same old thing over and over and over if the conservatives stayed at it the way some liberals do . Whats the point ? Agree to disagree. Its those who feel they must "win" who keep the argument going.

I don't know, Scotty, I've seen and been on some threads here where it wasn't the same ol', same ol'. There have been some incredible threads, for example on the role of the Spirit in Salvation, Tongues and Baptism.

Sam · #**257** 10-25-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NotforSale

This is a great Thread. This is what Religion has done to our World. The issue of knowing God and being saved has become a complicated mess.

Man made Religion and Temples built with hands of flesh.

God made Creation as the sufficient form of habitat to keep and sustain Man, physically and spiritually.

Until people return to the mountain or garden to pray, the list of "To Do's" will grow. It's kind of like buying land. Thousands of years ago, the "To Do's" were simple. Today, the stack of papers to sign and the complicated process is enough to confuse the best.

Religion today has become overrun with "Spiritual Attorneys", creating the Vortex of Law that has unleashed the never ending trail of another Idea and papers to sign.

If we don't simplify Faith, the World will become doomed by concepts formed in the Halls of Salvational litigation.

kinda makes on wonder, what ever happened to "the simplicity that is in Christ" (2 Cor. 11:3

acerrak · #**258** 10-25-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Once again, you've been out-blued.

O that made me laugh!

notofworks · #**259** 10-25-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

O that made me laugh!

Glad I could help!

Sam · #**260** 10-25-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NotforSale

Buildings bring God into the bondage of a manmade euphoria. The Modern Church today has become an elaborate entertainment center. Stages, sound systems, dress style, performance preaching, all this and more have created a falsified report and altars of fantasy.

Concepts develop within this manufactured environment that not only drift from God's Ultimate and initial plan for Mankind, they produce the greatest form of walking human hypocrisy on this Earth.
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Hey, chill out.
You're talking about a large religious, political organization that many love.